Dr. Umar Johnson on Travis Hunter fiancé, Black Panther Hidden Agenda & Origin Story of Black Power
Dr. Umar Johnson passionately discusses the importance of identity and racial classification in this thought-provoking podcast episode. He emphasizes that it is not enough for individuals to merely have a black parent; they must also identify as black full-time to be considered part of the African community. The conversation dives deep into issues surrounding mixed-race identities, touching on the complexities faced by those who straddle multiple cultures. Johnson also reflects on his personal journey of awakening and the impact of his experiences in Africa. Additionally, he critiques popular culture, including the portrayal of black characters in films like "Black Panther," highlighting the underlying messages that can affect the black community's self-perception and unity.
Chapters:
- 00:00 - Understanding Heritage and Identity
- 02:41 - The Origin Story of Dr. Umar Johnson
- 06:26 - Awakening in the Dungeon
- 12:07 - The Journey to Africa: Spiritual Awakening
- 16:52 - Ancestral Awakening and Spiritual Readiness
- 25:13 - The Impact of Black Panther on Black Identity
- 28:50 - The Smithsonian Experience: Reflections on Representation
- 36:30 - Cultural Takeover by Hollywood Commercialism
- 38:06 - The Media's Control Over Perception
- 45:21 - The Impact of Capitalism and Racism
- 50:40 - The Challenge of Leadership in the Black Community
- 56:17 - The Complexities of Mixed Race Identity
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Transcript
And I did see the live respect to Travis Hunter's fiance.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I did see the live.
Dr. Umar Johnson:She has a dark skinned mother.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, whether that was a Latino African mother or an American African mother, I don't know.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But she African, so she passed the biological test.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Mom is chocolate.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So you passed the first question, but Travis Hunter's fiance got to pass the second question.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Kendrick Lamar's wife got to pass the second question.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You've established that you have a black parent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, established to me that you identify full time as black yourself.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Do y'all see that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's not enough to have a black parent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You got to identify as black full time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And if you don't, you not a mixed race African.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You a mixed race snow bunny.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Real lifestyle.
Speaker B:Real life street.
Speaker B:You know what time it is.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Real life street star.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Hold up.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We got the legend.
Speaker C:The only person in America who was not dreaming of a white Christmas.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar Johnson.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, sir.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Glad to be here.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, sir.
Speaker C:Finally on the blue couch.
Speaker C:Finally behind the lights.
Speaker C:And we about to have a conversation, man.
Speaker C:This is first and foremost.
Speaker C:Welcome, welcome.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Glad to be here.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Thanks for the invitation.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Glad to be back in Dallas Fort Worth.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know, Dallas is one of the last major cities I started visiting on my speaking tour.
Dr. Umar Johnson: didn't hit Dallas until maybe: Dr. Umar Johnson:I got Dallas kind of late, but saved the best for last.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I got Houston even later than Dallas, but I get a lot of love here.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I spoke here for Kwanzaa last December and I was here about two months ago for a black economics conference at one of your major hotels.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And here I am now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black Power.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Glad to be with you.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker C:Thank you so much.
Speaker C:Now, with that being said, the world knows you.
Speaker C:You know, I always.
Speaker C:I remember that movie I'm a Get yout Sucker with Clarence Williams iii, where he was.
Speaker C:Black power.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, sir.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, sir.
Speaker C:And you know, he had a whole situation with the white children.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:With his black power, his African babadism.
Speaker C:I always take from you and what I would love to do.
Speaker C:Because those people in this world that look up to you, look at you as a superhero almost.
Speaker C:And every superhero has an origin story.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, sir.
Speaker C:Of where he got his superpowers from.
Speaker C:So I'm curious, what is Dr.
Speaker C:Umar Johnson's origin story?
Speaker C:How does it start?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm gonna give you my origin story.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And it ties into my superpower story.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So my origin story is, although born and raised North Philadelphia, Bill Cosby neighborhood, Meek Mill lived right across the street from us.
Dr. Umar Johnson:In the third grade, we moved To North Carolina.
Dr. Umar Johnson:My father was in the Marine Corps, and he was rough because he was a Marine Corps drill sergeant.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But I didn't have an older brother to speak to because I'm the oldest of five sons.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And so I said, when I grow up, I'm going to be the person that all the young people can talk to when they have no one else.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So that was eight, nine years old.
Dr. Umar Johnson:My parents divorced.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We get back to North Philadelphia.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The elementary school that I attended, it just so happened they had a black history class.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It wasn't mandatory for the entire city.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Our principal, that white principal, that black assistant principal, that black teacher, made it happen.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So fourth and fifth grade was black history class.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That was my introduction into black consciousness, and it was my introduction into public speaking because there was a Black History Month oratorical contest I entered that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I won first place both years.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I never shut up since.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, a few blocks away from my elementary school is the international headquarters of the UniAACL.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is the organization built by the most honorable Marcus Messiah Garvey, largest black organization in modern history, that gave us the red, black and green flag.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So the school is here.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The Garvey Movement is here.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So you could argue that my steps were already numbered from childhood.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I just had to walk them now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:My mother bought my tennis shoes at the Jewish sneaker store right next to the Garvey building.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I never knew it was the garvey building for 12 years until I graduate from undergrad college.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I'm going to get some sneakers.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Just graduated from college, and I see this big picture of Marcus Garvey in the window.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, why is there a picture of Garvey next to the white man sneaker store?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then the elder came around the corner.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Baba Johnny Gossa, he's an ancestor now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Rest in peace.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He said, can I help you?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, why does Garvey picture here?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What's going on here?
Dr. Umar Johnson:He said, this.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The UNIA come back Sunday at 3:00.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Came back Sunday at 3:00.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's been 25 years late.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I never left.
Speaker C:Wow.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now let me give you the superhero story.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Let's go.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Let me take you to how I became the prince of Pan Africanism.
Speaker C:Let's go.
Dr. Umar Johnson: ersville University, the year: Dr. Umar Johnson:Got to do my internship to get certified as a school psychologist in Philly.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I do that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:2005, I go to Africa for the first time as minister of education for the Garvey Movement.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Ethiopia, South Africa, Nigeria and Senegal.
Dr. Umar Johnson:30 days, 30 nights I'm all by myself, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:People thought I was crazy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You going to Africa by yourself?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Hell, yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I've been waiting for this.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So anyhow, the last stop in Africa is Senegal.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I go Ethiopia, South Nigeria, Senegal.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I go to the slave dungeon in Gori Island.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is the superhero story.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I walk into the female slave dungeon.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I got a bottle of water.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I was raised Muslim, Sunni Orthodox Islam.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Philadelphia has the largest amount of American African Orthodox Muslims in the country.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Dearborn has the most Muslims, period.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But they Arabs.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Philly is Mecca to African American Muslims.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Not necessarily the brothers and sisters from the Nation of Islam.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We're talking orthodox Islam, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So anyhow, being raised Muslim, we never dealt with ancestors or none of that, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And my father was strict with the Islam.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I walk into the female slave dungeon.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I get down on one knee.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, I'm going to pull me some libation.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I never did this before.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm in Africa for the first time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I gotta do a libation.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I start calling on my ancestors in a female slave dungeon in Gori.
Dr. Umar Johnson:True story.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I started crying, but the tears didn't feel like mine.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I got up and walked out the dungeon because it kind of caught me off guard, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, whoa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That was a little different.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What was that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I go back in, I finish my libation.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't think nothing of it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I get back to my hotel room, same night, sun is still up.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's about two hours from sunset.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I call my mother, let her know I'm good.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I go back to my hotel room.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't have a roommate.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I sit down on my bed, sun's still up.
Dr. Umar Johnson:All of a sudden I start hearing chains, whips, people crying, screaming animals.
Dr. Umar Johnson:My room starts spinning.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Mind you, I'm wide awake.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is not a dream.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't smoke, I'm not high.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm a psychologist.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm clearly awake.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I thought it was going to stop now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The sun down, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's still going on.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm scared to get up and walk out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Something might grab me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So then all of a sudden, something starts tapping me in my third eye.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Like this, real hard, but not hard enough to hurt me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But the power that I'm showing you here, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:But there's nobody in the room with me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But there's a finger tapping my third eye.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now I know it was opening up my third eye so I could receive the wisdom from my ancestors.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I know that now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I didn't know that then because back then I'm thinking like a Muslim.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm not knowing nothing about no African consciousness.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So then I try to go to sleep.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, let me sleep this off, because I'm too scared to do anything else.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I felt two hands rolled me over to the other side of the bed.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, mind you, I'm almost 300 pounds.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Roll me back to the other side of the bed.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Roll me back.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm like, oh, shit, did I bring a demon back?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know, I'm thinking in my paranormal mind, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So at about 4 o'clock in the morning, I figured it out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, this.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The ancestors.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I just knew it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I asked them, could y'all let me sleep now?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because I'm scared.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Y'all been with me for like seven, eight hours.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I need to sleep.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So they left the next day.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I walk out through the village and we are in a rural section of Senegal.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So it's like calves and donkeys and chickens walking all around, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I'm talking to the Senegalese brothers, telling them what happened last night.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They said, don't worry about that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:A lot of you American Africans, when y'all come home, y'all have that experience because it's your ancestors tapping back into you.
Dr. Umar Johnson: ladelphia, this is the summer: Dr. Umar Johnson:I take on an assistant principal job, and I start experiencing coincidences like crazy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Somebody will phone ring.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I know who it is.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Somebody looking for something.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I got it in my hand, I think it's somebody.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I see them tomorrow, like, bing, bing, bing, bing.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Coincidence is like crazy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Where I'm like, oh, shit, what happened over there?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So then I finally go to the Oyotunji African village in South Carolina.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I get an African spiritual divination, Yoruba style, right from the Yoruba.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And that's when the babalawa rest in peace.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Chief O Light time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He's an ancestor now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He left about two years ago.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He told me your ancestors were throwing you a welcome home party.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He said, you didn't go to Africa for Garvey.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You thought you went to Africa for Garvey, but your ancestors set that whole thing up to bring you back.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That was 05.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Five years later, I get a phone call from a Hebrew Israelite brother, Brother Dawa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Chicago.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He's an ancestor now too.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He said, I want to interview you on my public access TV station.
Dr. Umar Johnson:At this time, nobody know who I am.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm still just the Pennsylvania Pan Africanist.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I ain't the prince yet.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I said, Chicago, that's the second largest city I'm there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is probably only the third or fourth time I ever flew an airplane, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm almost a million miles in with Delta now, but this is beginning.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I go to Chicago.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I do the interview with Dawa Psycho Academic War Against Black Boys.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, mind you, I done done these interviews a hundred times, but only in Pennsylvania.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I do it in Chicago.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The interview is over.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I asked for a copy of the dvd.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He said, I can't give you the DVD because I need this.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, no problem.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Send me a copy later.
Dr. Umar Johnson:At the last minute, he changes his mind.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If he doesn't, we might not be here today.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He gives me the dvd, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Six weeks later, I speak at the National Black Theater in Harlem for the first time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So now it's New York, Harlem.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I spoke in New York before, but it was private and only for the Garvey movement.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This was for everybody.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I get to Harlem, I got copies of the Chicago interview.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I give them out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Give them out?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Give them out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:My New York lecture was entitled Post Traumatic slavery disease, part four, miseducation of the 21st century Negro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's on YouTube.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So anyhow, after I do the lecture in Harlem, 125th and 5th, give out the Chicago interview.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I lie to you not.
Dr. Umar Johnson: ,: Dr. Umar Johnson: ,: Dr. Umar Johnson: -: Dr. Umar Johnson:Right within 48 hours.
Dr. Umar Johnson:After Harlem, bro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:After giving out that Chicago interview in Harlem, my phone started ringing.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It ain't stopped in 14 years.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I started seeing area codes I never saw first.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It was America, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:My first call to come to Dallas came right after that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Like, yo, we want you to doc bookstore.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's the first place I came in, Dallas.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then California came.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Then there was Texas and Alabama and Mississippi.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I was just.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It was crazy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, mind you, at the time, I'm a whole school psychologist, but people keep calling on me to come speak, come speak.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm like, shit, I got to test these kids, do these evaluations.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I got IQ tests, achievement tests, emotional assessment.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I had to make a decision.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You either got to pull back on your public speaking and keep doing your professional work or pull back on the professional work to travel.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, mind you, being a psychologist, you get paid good money.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I gave the money up for the movement.
Speaker C:Come on.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I don't regret it because of the lives that I've changed in the process.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Exactly.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But here's the point I want to make.
Dr. Umar Johnson: what set up what happened in: Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:In other words, what I'm doing right now was birthed in that slave dungeon in West Africa.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, that, man.
Speaker C:Hey, man, that sounds like Black Panther, the purple orb.
Speaker C:Ancestral plane.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I own the comic book of it, though.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:You got to.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You got to.
Speaker C:And here I thought, you know, you got, like, done by a white girl in third grade or something.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yeah.
Speaker C:No, no, no, no.
Speaker C:This is no.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Bunny.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black wings forever.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Snow bunnies, never.
Speaker C:Yeah, I thought it was a traumatic moment that happened back in the.
Speaker C:So, okay, so, man, that's amazing.
Speaker C:So let's start with this.
Speaker C:And we're gonna be jumping all over the place.
Speaker C:But they always say for the black American, the African American who was born in America, why don't you go back to Africa?
Speaker C:I used to always say, why don't you go back home?
Speaker C:And they'd be like, well, I never been there.
Speaker C:Would you prescribe that every person, black person, of melanated skin, go travel to Africa?
Speaker C:And if so, where, based on where you've been?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Great question.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Would I recommend that every African in the diaspora travel to Africa?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm glad you said travel, because I thought you were going to say immigrate or relocate.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Travel.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So you can know who you are and where you come from.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Connect with your roots, because that's spiritually necessary, that's psychologically necessary, that's politically necessary, that's socially necessary.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, if you would have said immigrate, I would have said no.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because as the Right Honorable Marcus Messiah Garvey said, I have no intention of taking all of you back to Africa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Some of you are no good in America, so you damn well will be no good in Africa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I'm of the same way.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We don't need bunny hoppers in Africa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We don't need basketballs and footballs in Africa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You understand?
Dr. Umar Johnson:We don't need to be taking no problems.
Dr. Umar Johnson:There you go.
Dr. Umar Johnson:There you go.
Dr. Umar Johnson:To solve problems, not to create them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know what I mean?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So Garvey never led a back to Africa movement.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's what the white man called it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:When people hear the word Pan Africanism, they say, oh, they want to take everybody back.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We never believed in that and I don't believe in it now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Only those who want to go and have something that they can contribute to the rebuilding of Africa should go back to Africa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You understand?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now to what you said in the beginning there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The whole world is the Kingdom of Africa because we're the first people to circumnavigate the planet.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We're the first Europeans, we're the first Asians, we're the first Americans, we're the first everything.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We was on every continent before anybody else ever evolved.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If you dig long enough, you're going to find black folks everywhere.
Dr. Umar Johnson:In the beginning.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So the whole world is the Kingdom of Africa, but the continent is the royal palace.
Speaker B:Now that.
Speaker B:That phase you went through.
Speaker B:I won't even say phase.
Speaker B:That what you went through when you went to West Africa?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Is that something you think every black person can experience or do you have to be chosen to go through that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's a great question.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm gonna look at it a couple different ways.
Dr. Umar Johnson:To begin with, in many African spiritual systems, women, black women are born with the spiritual capacity to access other dimensions.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They born with it, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So the African woman is slightly more spiritual than us in that she's born with that energy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We have to be initiated and trained into it, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So that's one part of my answer.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Here's the other part.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It depends on how spiritually ready you are.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Here's one of the laws of spirit, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Your ancestors might want you to go to Africa and go through exactly what Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar went through to open you up spiritually, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:But are you psychologically ready to receive that truth?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Listen, I was born and raised Muslim.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That indoctrination was heavy, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So even after I went through that awakening inside of Goree Island, I still had to deal with some of the indoctrination of Islamic that taught me that anything that was beyond the realms of the Quran was not divine.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You follow me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I'm a conscious brother and I still had to work through it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You see what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So remember, spirit will only give you what you can handle.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They might want to give you the world, but if you are not psychologically, emotionally and spiritually prepared to be opened up, it will harm you and therefore they won't bring it to you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So when you hear that saying that says when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That is exactly the truth.
Dr. Umar Johnson:When it comes to ancestral awakening, they're only going to come to you if you're ready to receive Them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And that night in that hotel room, I don't think I was ready to receive them, but they made me ready because they wasn't letting me out the room.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And they came so hard that I could not ignore what I've been through.
Dr. Umar Johnson:In other words, had I dreamt that, if that was a dream, I would have reasoned it away.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You follow what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They had to get me awake, sitting up on my bed.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Cause anything else, I would have dismissed it as some sort of random dream.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So they got me when I was awake.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Cause they needed to make sure I accepted it.
Speaker D:That's real.
Speaker D:I'm curious, what did you think of the Black Panther movie?
Dr. Umar Johnson:The Black Panther movie?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Shout out to Ryan Coogler.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And of course he has a black woman.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Cinematography.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Excellent, excellent, excellent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now let's deal with the content.
Speaker D:Yeah, that's all I wanted to get.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The cinematography is one thing.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Content is something else.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I got issues with the content in Black Panther.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why Killmonger, which I believe was Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar plagiarized.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because in that movie, next time you watch Black Panther, you're gonna hear Killmonger say things that I said verbatim.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Verbatim.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I saw at least 4 comments out of Michael B.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Jordan mouth that I've said verbatim.
Speaker D:Damn.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So they took me and made me into Killmonger.
Speaker C:Can you give us maybe one of those?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, indeed.
Dr. Umar Johnson:When he said there's 2 million people all around the world who look exactly like us and we not doing nothing for them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Who the fuck you ever hear say that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:But King Kong and I could give you more than that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They took me and made me him.
Dr. Umar Johnson:There was another action thing that just came out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They had my whole hair.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Of course I cut it now, had my hair bared.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It was the three women.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It was a black sister and two white girls.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I forget you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker C:Exactly what you're talking about.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They had me in there and everybody texted me for the doc.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They got you in here.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look, just like me saying my shit in there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Oh, you need Lord, but stay with me, Stay with me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So with Black Panther, with the content, Killmonger was the metaphorical woke black man in America who knows everything but doesn't respect African culture.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The message in Killmonger to Africa was don't let these woke Negroes over there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yeah, they read all the books and they know all the history, but they don't respect African culture.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They've been Europeanized and they filled with hatred like Killmonger.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If you Let black America come back to Africa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They will destroy your society.
Dr. Umar Johnson:There was coded messages in Black Panther for different African populations around the world.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now let's look at Prince T'Challa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Rest in peace.
Dr. Umar Johnson:To Chadwick Boseman, his character, the Black Panther, was what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Selfish?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Stingy?
Dr. Umar Johnson:He was a nationalist, but he wasn't a Pan Africanist.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He didn't care about black people outside of Wakanda.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Y'all remember that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Remember when Lupita kept trying to get him to go help?
Dr. Umar Johnson:She said, we got everything in Wakanda.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Let's go help our brothers and sisters in America.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Prince T'Challa said, We don't give a damn about them.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You follow what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So that was a message to black America, that Africa don't want your ass.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Y'all can keep wearing dashikis and changing your name and getting locks.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They don't want you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So the messages, I think, were very damaging and destructive to the aspirations of black people on both sides of the water.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And let's be clear.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This was not a coincidence.
Dr. Umar Johnson: Black Panther came out in: Dr. Umar Johnson:2018.
Speaker C:2018.
Speaker C:I want to say.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What was the very next year after Black Panther came out?
Dr. Umar Johnson: The year of return,: Dr. Umar Johnson:400 years of African people in the diaspora relocated from slavery.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Are you going to tell me it's a coincidence that you bring a movie out?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You bring a movie out the year before the quadricentennial of black slavery.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You bring a movie out that tells Africans black Americans are no good for you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And tell black Americans Africans are no good for you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look at this now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Killmonger.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Kill is the metaphorical black man in America.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Prince T'Challa, the metaphorical black man in Africa.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You don't want to be bothered with him, and you don't want to be bothered with him.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now let's bring it home.
Dr. Umar Johnson:CIA Agent Ross.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Remember the white boy at the end of the day, he flies the plane in.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He really saves the day.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Can I ask you all a question?
Dr. Umar Johnson:How can a CIA agent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:How can a CIA agent be a hero in an African movie?
Dr. Umar Johnson:When the CIA assassinated every major black leader we had in America?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Africa, Central South America, in the Caribbean, they got Maurice Bishop assassinated.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They was implicated in Walter Rodney.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They got Malcolm killed, King killed.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They the ones who got Garvey thrown out of America.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They the ones who had Patrice Lumumba assassinated.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They helped Nelson Mandela get arrested.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The CIA destroyed the Black Liberation Movement.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And you mean to tell me you got a Black Panther movie with an Organization responsible for killing every major black leader saves the fucking day.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now listen, Congress, US Congress, they have a committee for Hollywood.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Guess what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:The job.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I forget the name of it, but there's a congressional committee who oversees the movies that come out of Hollywood.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And what do we know about the Congressional committee?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They will pay your movie studio to put content, characters, themes and storylines in your movie that are favorable to American foreign policy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You're not going to tell me the FBI, Nobody's.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Ryan Coogler cannot tell me that the FBI didn't have their fingerprints on Black Panther because the storyline was completely disgusting.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm going to go one more for the Queendom.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The movie's in Africa, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Can you tell me something?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why you didn't see a single black mother with a child in a three hour movie in Africa?
Dr. Umar Johnson:There was no maternity in Black Panther.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Where can you go in Africa and not see a woman with her baby message?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know why?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Absent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know why?
Speaker D:Why is that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because they are trying to create a mindset in an atmosphere in an ecosystem where black children no longer look to black on black heterosexual love.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And so they stripped Black Panther of black on black heterosexual love.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because they selling our children the rainbow agenda.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black Panther 1 was a CIA psychops and Black Panther 2 followed up on it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'll never forget Black Panther 2 because it came out on November 11th of 20.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Was it 22?
Dr. Umar Johnson:22, right.
Dr. Umar Johnson: I know it was: Dr. Umar Johnson:You know why?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because we just celebrated Nat Turner.
Dr. Umar Johnson: ,: Dr. Umar Johnson:So every November 11th we go to Nat Turnerland and we celebrated him in the army.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So at Nat Turner I said, who want to go see Black Panther tonight?
Dr. Umar Johnson:We was hyped.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Just got finished celebrating Nat Turner.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We got the energy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We go to the damn movie theater and all I see is brown people whipping the shit out of black people.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That movie was a disgrace.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black Panther 2 was a disgrace.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Listen, can I ask you a question?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Go back to Black Panther 1, right?
Speaker D:Right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Our children was hyped off the characters in Black Panther 1, right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Everybody wanted to be right, Right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now you high on Black Panther 1.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Your mother and father take you to see Black Panther 2.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So now you got these.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't know what they were.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Latinos, Arabs.
Speaker D:Arabs.
Speaker D:They were Latinos.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Okay.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And much respect to the Latino nation.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So you have these Latinos, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Who live under the water and they have all the same powers.
Speaker D:Even better, Even better powers.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Old boy was a God.
Speaker C:He was a.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Somebody helped me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Since when did you have Another category of superheroes, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Who have the exact same or better grade, higher quality powers of your superheroes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Here's the question.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What was the purpose of Black Panther 2 if it wasn't to strip the self esteem of black kids?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Who was riding high off of Black Panther one?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They whipped our ass.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They went into Wakanda and whipped everybody's ass.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Jabari from the Mountain Tribe, who, Who?
Dr. Umar Johnson:He wasn't doing shit in Black Panther 2.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He got you feel me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then remember, they killed the mother.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black Panther what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What black person you know, Auntie.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They kill Auntie Angela Bassett, kill your mother, you come back and make peace with the people who killed your mother.
Speaker D:Damn.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What kind of movie was that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Listen, Ryan Coogler.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You're not gonna tell me Ryan Coogler writing these himself?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nah, nah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No black man is writing on movie where your people get destroyed by another race.
Speaker D:And it's supposed you ain't killing my mama in it?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Come on, man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yo, that movie.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yo.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yo, I almost walked out and I'm sitting next to my godson.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm sitting next to my godson.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm like, what is this?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I wouldn't take my kids to see this.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is an insult.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And now they working on part three with Denzel.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I love Denzel, but he ain't got no control over what the script gonna be.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I hope Ryan Cool will do a 360 or something because right now I can.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I couldn't show that to my children.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Remember now that's the first superhero movie that will be viewed by every African child in the world.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Every black child on the planet saw Black Panther and look at the messages they got from it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look at the messages.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Completely toxic.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black Panther 2.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look at the message.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And as far as I'm Concerned, Black Panther 2 to me was a prophetic message to black America that we about to wash out the black with the Brown.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black Panther 2 is a preview of the migrant crisis.
Speaker D:We should have went against a white superhero.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's what we should have did.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Should have been.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Should have been.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That have been a better move, that black versus brown.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I ain't like that theme, but I do think it was a forerunner to the migrant crisis.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What did they do in New York?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What did they do in Chicago?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They washed out black people with the migrants.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's exactly what they did with the underwater people in Black Panther to watch this right the hell out.
Speaker B:What do you think about them making Bucky the black?
Speaker B:The winter showed that he was the white Panther.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I didn't understand the last scene in the movie.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Who was the white dude at the end?
Speaker B:Jesus, that's.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's Buck Cracker G.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Who is he?
Speaker B:So he's the winter soldier in the comic book.
Speaker B:That's.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So he's his own character.
Speaker B:He's his own character.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What was he doing in the Panther movie at the end?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What was he doing?
Speaker D:Trying to cross over with Marvel.
Speaker B:They was trying to cross over.
Speaker D:You got me thinking.
Speaker B:But in the comic book, he is known as the White Panther.
Speaker B:That arm he has is vibranium, which is mined in Wakanda.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Wakanda.
Speaker B:That's what his arm is made of.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't like it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't like it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker B:I got one more.
Speaker B:So what about the only there.
Speaker B:The only presence?
Speaker B:There was no strong black man presence in the movie.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Oh, absolutely.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And the fact.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And shout out to the sister who plays Zuri, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They turned her into the Panther.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I didn't like that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because black women need superheroes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Our daughters need them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Don't get me wrong.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But you don't turn a black male superhero into a female superhero, you understand?
Dr. Umar Johnson:That should have remained a man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because what it said to me was, y'all not strong enough to lead the nation, so we gonna let a woman take over.
Dr. Umar Johnson: been going through since the: Dr. Umar Johnson:Industrializing the inner city.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So there was a lot of themes in these movies, man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Which makes me bring up something else.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Have any of you been to the Smithsonian National African American museum in Washington, D.C.
Dr. Umar Johnson:i have when I was young.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You been when I was young?
Dr. Umar Johnson:No, no.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Well, it's only been.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's only been open for maybe.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The brand, the big five, six.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It ain't that old.
Speaker E:No, no, no, no.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Okay, you ain't been there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, this is the national.
Speaker E:Okay.
Dr. Umar Johnson:George Bush signed it into law when he was president, but it opened under Obama.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I guess maybe 12 years now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Maybe about 12 years.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But the reason I'm bringing this up, because when you go to the Smithsonian, right now, this is the official African American museum of the US So everybody who visits this country who want to know about black people, they go into the Smithsonian.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I go to the Smithsonian.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And so I go in and I'm like, okay, it starts in slavery.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They don't really tell us too much about what we was before y'all came and stole us, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I'm scratching my head a little bit about that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then in the Slavery exhibit.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Thomas Jefferson, rapist, slave owner, has a life size statue in the slavery exhibit.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why are we glorifying a slave master in the slavery exhibit.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What is Thomas Jefferson doing with a statue?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They glorifying him, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nat Turner don't have no statue.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Harriet Tubman don't have no statue.
Dr. Umar Johnson:My ancestor, Frederick Douglass, he don't have no statue.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I keep on going through this museum.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They got the honorable Marcus Garvey tucked on some little, little board around the corner.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You won't even see him.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is the leader of the largest black organization of all time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He tucked.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He tucked, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So keep going, keep going.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You get up to the top two floors.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Guess what's on the top two floors.
Dr. Umar Johnson:One floor is the athletes, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Michael Jordan got a big statue.
Dr. Umar Johnson:LeBron James got three big TVs with all his highlights.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Serena Williams got a big.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I said, wait a minute, wait.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Time out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No statue for Harriet.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nothing for Garvey, Nothing for Nat Turner for.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But Michael Jordan, a bunny hopper.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Serena a bunny hopper.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Damn, damn, damn.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then you go to the hip hop.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They have a glass case of a pair of Nike Air Force ones painted red, white and blue with Barack Obama face on them in a hip hop exhibit.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nike is a white corporation.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Barack Obama is a house negro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What that got to do with hip hop?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then after you're going through this trauma, you're gonna be hungry, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So you say, let's go get some grub.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I know they got some good food in the caf.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Guess what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Guess what they selling in the caf.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nachos.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Take a guess.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Guess what they selling in the caf?
Dr. Umar Johnson:At the Smithsonian National African American Museum.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes.
Speaker D:Fried chicken.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Fried chicken.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Cornbread.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Pork chops.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes.
Speaker D:Collard greens.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Ghetto ass.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Plantation food.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I thought, I thought they was gonna have samples of the food that we ate in Africa before we came.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So this is what they ate in Nigeria.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is what they ate in Ghana, Liberia, Congo, Cameroon.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No, no, no.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They gave you the slave diet.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So here's the narrative.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is how it is.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They was in Africa, living in the jungle.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We came and enslaved them, but they didn't know it was good for them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So when we got them over here, taught them how to work and be civilized, they gave them white Jesus.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They didn't know it was good for them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So they fought us.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They fought us.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They fought us.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We let them out of slavery.
Dr. Umar Johnson:After they got out of slavery, they started making rap music and dunking basketballs.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The end.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The end.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Highlight.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Real now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:People say, well, how would you have done it?
Dr. Umar Johnson:First of all, why is there no exhibit on the school to prison pipeline?
Dr. Umar Johnson:That should have been a whole floor.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about the HBCUs?
Dr. Umar Johnson:That should have been a whole floor.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about the contributions of black women?
Dr. Umar Johnson:That should have been a whole floor.
Dr. Umar Johnson:How about the black inventors?
Dr. Umar Johnson:That should have been a whole floor.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about mass incarceration?
Dr. Umar Johnson:All the people who'd been murdered by the police, now they're in there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You got a little plaque, you got a little info board, but I'm talking about an exhibit.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No, bro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know who run that museum?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Athletes and rappers, bro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then when you ask questions, you know what they told us?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They said that the athletes you see in the Smithsonian put up matching dollars for the construction of the museum.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So they said LeBron and Serena and Michael and them gave money, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So because they gave money, y'all had to dedicate the museum to them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They not no damn freedom fighters.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now go to a Jewish museum.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I bet you they ain't got the top two floors dedicated to Seinfeld.
Dr. Umar Johnson:How much you want to bet?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Seinfeld ain't got no whole floor.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Do you feel me, though?
Dr. Umar Johnson:How much you want to bet?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Go into a Jewish museum about the Holocaust, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You won't see no goofy ass comedians, ain't no actors, no basketball players.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They talking about community and culture.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But you come to the black museum and two floors is dedicated to coons and bunny hoppers.
Speaker C:It says.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And guess how much it costs.
Dr. Umar Johnson:$550 million.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Do you know what the hell we could have done with a half a billion, bro?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know how many schools we could have built?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know how many hospitals we could have built with $550 million?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know how many black men unemployment we could have gave jobs to?
Dr. Umar Johnson:How many homeless black women with kids for $550 million?
Speaker C:Come on, man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker C:Now let me ask you.
Speaker C:And again, I'm gonna get off of this Black Panther, but I have to ask you.
Speaker C:When Black Panther came out, there was a lot of black pride that you see people in dashikis, they were seeking for something.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, they were.
Speaker C:And they got it from entertainment value.
Speaker C:What did you take from the black community coming together and start really trying to show their blackism?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I guess you could say misdirected passion.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And the reason I'm going to say it was misdirected passion.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No Caucasian?
Dr. Umar Johnson:No.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Hollywood film studio.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Damn sure not.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Walt Disney can create or do anything for you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That should motivate you to get interested in who you are because a white man is initiating it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look at all the great leaders we had.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look at all the scholars we had.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look at all the black books that's been published on us.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And you get hype over a superhero invented by a white man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Invented by a white man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But you won't get hype over the real Black Panthers.
Dr. Umar Johnson:How about some Huey P.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Newton?
Dr. Umar Johnson:He wasn't invented at Disney Studio.
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about little Bobby Hutton?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about Geronimo Pratt?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about Bobby Seale?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about George Jackson?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about Jonathan Jackson?
Dr. Umar Johnson:What about Fred Hampton?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'll give you some real Black Panthers.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You follow what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Don't give me no cartoon invented by a white man where you got real Black Panthers.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And here's the issue.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The real Black Panthers got washed out for the cartoon Black Panther.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because now when our children hear Black Panther, they don't think about Huey P.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Newton, they don't think about Fred Hampton, they don't think about George Jackson.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They don't think about Geronimo Pratt.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They don't think about our Prentice, Bunchy Carter, John Huggins.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know what they think about the cartoon.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So in many ways, that was a cultural takeover by Hollywood commercialism.
Speaker B:How many you know in entertainment, period, how much of it do you think is made to program the way?
Dr. Umar Johnson:All of it.
Speaker B:All of it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The purpose of entertainment is to control minds.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The whole purpose of propaganda, which is informational warfare, is to do what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Destroy the consciousness so you never have to go to war with the people.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If I can control what you think, I never have to fight you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If I could convince you that standing up to me is the worst thing you could ever do in your life, if I could convince you that I am invincible, you'll never want to fight me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's why they spend more money on misinformation than they do in the military.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And you see how much money they spend on the military.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They spend more money on misinformation than they do in the military.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And let us be clear about something.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You only have about six media companies.
Dr. Umar Johnson:95% of everything you see, 95% of everything you read, 95% of everything you hear is even coming to you through Disney, Sony, Tom Warner, Bertelsman, Rupert Murdoch newsgroup.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I'm leaving one out six companies control 95% of all the media in the world.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And you wonder why.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They control our athletes, they control our celebrities, they control what we think.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Whoever controls the information controls the world.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And what are the most important aspects of information?
Dr. Umar Johnson:It is the images and the sound.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The Brain is ruled by what it sees and what it hears.
Speaker D:So with that being said, Jay Z, what are your thoughts about this?
Speaker D:Everything that's going on with Jay Z right now?
Dr. Umar Johnson: ably arrested in September of: Dr. Umar Johnson:Right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Allegedly.
Dr. Umar Johnson:A whole bunch of ugly old white women came together and remembered that he sexually harassed them 40 years ago.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nonsense.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No white woman is waiting 40 years to tell on a rich ass black man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Remember at the time, Bill Cosby is what Denzel is now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You understand me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Bill Cosby was the man back then.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He opened up tv, he's at the top of his game.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He sexually assaults you innocent white woman and you don't tell nobody for 40 years, not only one of you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It was like 30 of them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And then all of a sudden they get this epiphany all at once.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Their white ancestors came and said, stand and go tell.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And they all came out at one time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Bill Cosby got locked up because him and his wife didn't want to let the second largest oil company in the world drill under their Massachusetts home.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They wanted oil.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Cosby and Camille led the crusade by the neighborhood association to not let them drill.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They decided to get him arrested because they felt that they could bankrupt him through legal fees which would force him to sell the house.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They get access to the drilling.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's why Cosby went to jail.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So that's 18.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Okay, R.
Dr. Umar Johnson: ted in Brooklyn, September of: Dr. Umar Johnson:Right.
Speaker D:He did that shit though.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He may have.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But that's not why he in jail.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No, because we never going to defend pedophilia, Right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Or abuse.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But that ain't why he in there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because that's what they do in Hollywood.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That don't make it right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Okay, but that means that's not why you're there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because if that's why you there, they should all be there, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:R.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Kelly didn't want to sell his masters.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's why he got locked up.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, if Bill Cosby's in jail, if R.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Kelly's in jail, why did New York City's City Council decide to create this gender based violence protection initiative, which already existed, but they added a two year window.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Out of the blue.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Out of the blue.
Dr. Umar Johnson: The law been around since: Dr. Umar Johnson:It's a 24 year old law.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Two years ago, it's been around 22 years.
Dr. Umar Johnson: st of: Dr. Umar Johnson:No statute of limitations.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If Bill Cosby is already locked up, if R.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Kelly is already locked up, if Harvey Weinstein is already locked up, why did they come up with that law?
Dr. Umar Johnson:In my opinion, they came up with that law to take down Sean Carter and Sean Combs.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That was the Puffy Jay Z.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Bill.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It wasn't necessary.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Weinstein's in jail.
Dr. Umar Johnson:R.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Kelly's in jail, Bill Cosby's in jail.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why do y'all need to come up with a two year window that let women go all the way back in time and accuse any man they know?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And mind you, you can't bring a criminal suit.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's only for money.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Come on, have money.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That tells me you only made this rule to go after rich people.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black celebrities, bro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That was the Carter Combs law.
Speaker D:That's what I call it when Jay Z says he's not P.
Speaker D:Diddy's friend.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Wow.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, now, now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Let's look at that both ways, okay?
Dr. Umar Johnson:When Shawn Carter said that him and Sean Combs were never friends, that could be looked at a couple different ways.
Speaker D:Okay?
Dr. Umar Johnson:On one way, it could be listed.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It could be a mafia thing where we know we buttons.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But I can't afford to catch none of your heat.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So on camera, I'm gonna tell them, I don't mess with you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But off camera, we still brothers.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because I can't afford to go down.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because if I go down, Puff, who gonna finance you getting out?
Dr. Umar Johnson:God forbid, if Puff go broke, he gonna need Jay to send him a life preserver.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So Jay can't afford to go down.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Cause if they both go down, who can they go to get some money from?
Dr. Umar Johnson:They two of the biggest out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Denzel ain't cutting no check.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He too clean.
Dr. Umar Johnson:He ain't gonna touch it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You see what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So my thing is, it could be an undercover agreement.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We gonna act like we enemies in public.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But I got your back in private, so I don't wanna jump to conclusions.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, if what he said is what it is, that's bad.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because everybody know y'all was homies.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Everybody know y'all hung out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Everybody know there's a relationship there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But maybe they fell out before Puff got hit.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You see what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Maybe their relationship went south before Puff got Hit with the accusation.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Maybe this is not Jay Z throwing him under the bus because of the crimes he's being accused of.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It could very well be that their relationship went south.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But to say y'all was never like I said, I'm going to take the high road.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I'm going to say Combs and Carter have an agreement that we ain't friends in public because I might need your help in private.
Speaker E: year old girl back in: Speaker E:We don't know what's true.
Speaker E:It's all allegedly.
Speaker E:However, why do you think no one is questioning the story of why this 13 year old girl was in these places and spaces at this time by themselves?
Speaker E:Why is that not a topic of discussion?
Speaker E:Whether he did it or not doesn't make him innocent or guilty.
Speaker E:Why is no one saying, well, what was this girl doing alone exactly in that space?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Well, for black people, we don't care because we love to see our successful people taken down.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So black people don't care.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They just want to see Jay Z, Sean Combs and any other rich black person drug through the mud because they're not rich.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So that's black people.
Dr. Umar Johnson:White folks are not gonna question it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Pretty much for the same reason.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They like to see black people fall from grace as well.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You know, for me you have to go there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:How does a 13 year old girl get from Rochester, New York to Radio City Music hall on September 7th?
Dr. Umar Johnson: What the year: Dr. Umar Johnson:How did she get there?
Dr. Umar Johnson:She said a friend drove her five hours.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I've driven to Rochester.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Frederick Douglass is buried there.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I visit Rochester regular.
Dr. Umar Johnson:A 13 year old girl got a ride from her friend from Rochester, New York to Radio City Music Hall.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And the father don't remember ever picking his daughter up after she got sexually assaulted by the two biggest names in hip hop.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Wow.
Speaker B:Why do you think?
Speaker B:Because once you get so much money, right?
Speaker B:I heard the only thing that beats racism is capitalism.
Speaker B:So once you get to a certain threshold of money, it's like, why assassinate the character of a puffy R Jay Z?
Speaker B:What is the significance of it?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Well, first of all, capitalism cannot beat racism because racism invented capitalism.
Dr. Umar Johnson:White people are serious about power.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black people are serious about money.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's the big difference between us.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is why a white man could be worth $10 billion.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You will never know it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You will never know it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:A black man will be worth $10 and you think he worth 10 million, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So white people are about control.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You See?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Control.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black people want to own things.
Dr. Umar Johnson:White people want to own situations.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Power, bucks, money.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Every day of the week.
Dr. Umar Johnson:When you hear Negroes say the only thing matter is green power, that's a politically uneducated Negro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The question is, who makes the green money?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Who has the power to print the money?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Power runs this world, not money.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Money don't mean nothing.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because when you got power, you can get anything you want.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You don't even need money if you got power, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because you can make people do.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Think about the bully in lunch, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You in the lunchroom, you got your bling on.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You got your money, your Jordans, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:The bully ain't got nothing, but guess what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:He gonna leave the lunchroom with jewelry.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Jordans much?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because the person with power can get anything they want.
Dr. Umar Johnson:White people are in pursuit of power, black people in pursuit of things.
Speaker B:Now, I would say that you command a lot of power.
Speaker B:I would even venture to say that taking somebody like you down would be more of a loss to the black community than taking a Jay Z down.
Speaker B:Only because I agree.
Speaker B:You speak this message, you speaking.
Speaker B:I remember being.
Speaker B:I don't know where I was or how old I was, but I remember I heard you speak on the Breakfast Club, and you made me want to actually do something about the shit you was talking about.
Speaker B:You was talking about what they do to black children, how they.
Speaker B:With ADHDs and how they just misdiagnosed our black children over and over again and the problems that it actually causes.
Speaker B:And it was like, man, we really just have to go through that.
Speaker B:And it made me want to do something about it.
Speaker B:Aren't you more dangerous?
Speaker B:Do you feel like you're in danger?
Speaker B:Do you ever feel like your life is in danger because of your message?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I think that every black man in America is in danger and a potential political prisoner.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Am I being watched?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I am.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because I was told that by FBI agents who are supporters of mine.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They put me to the side and say, they're watching you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Don't get paranoid, because if they don't find nothing on you, they will make it up anyway.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I had an old lady, a senior elder.
Dr. Umar Johnson:She came up to me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I spoke at a graduation in Philly, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:She like a sweet grandmother, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Guess what she told me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:She said, Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Uma, I'm an FBI agent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:She said, you would never know, would you?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look like the sweetest old grandma.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Like she just made some sweet potato pie.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And she said, you need to be careful because they will send the type of people they know you will Trust.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I trust elders, so I gotta be careful with the elders.
Speaker B:Have they ever tried to send a white woman?
Dr. Umar Johnson:But they will use the white woman on everybody else, though.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Not me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They gonna send a white woman on me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But see, here's the thing that I wanted to say to that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They watch, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:But they don't really mobilize against you until you start moving the people.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right now, I'm educating the people.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm motivating the people.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I ain't moved them yet.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Once the Frederick Douglass and Marcus Garvey Academy is up and running now, I'm gonna start moving them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's when I gotta be extra careful.
Dr. Umar Johnson:That's when they want to send.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, don't get me wrong.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I believe right now that there are four women and one man that is around me who I think are agents.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I will bet my life that at least four of them are, without question, agents.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The behavior, things they've done.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They already got people on me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They already got people on me, and I know who they are.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's easy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You can.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You can tell an agent you could.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's hard for them to hide.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I just got to be careful.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But you can't worry about it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because the Honorable Marcus Garvey said what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Leaders will come.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Leaders will die.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The tragedy isn't that we die.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The tragedy isn't the fact that Malcolm, or King or mega, was murdered.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The tragedy is it's been 50 years and you still ain't found a replacement.
Speaker C:Oh, man, that is a tragedy.
Dr. Umar Johnson:See, a big difference between black people and the other communities.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They make their leaders.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They train their leaders.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They raise their leaders.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We go to church in Mass and pray for hours.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nah, you see that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:And that's why it's been almost 50 years.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And you ain't got another king, you ain't got another Malcolm.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's been 100 years.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You damn sure ain't had another Garvey.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And that's our problem.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You got to make leaders.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The white man got leadership schools.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The Asians got leadership.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Where's our leadership academies?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Where do you send black males or girls to be trained in the art of leading black people?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Not one, not a single HBCU specializes in the leadership of African people.
Speaker B:Well, my opinion on that has always been black men are scared.
Speaker B:Once you get to a level like you, I've always.
Speaker B:Once you get to a level where you're at and you can command a crowd or money or wherever you want, it starts to change.
Speaker B:How they they now they want the things.
Speaker B:So the information that they was given is no longer important to because now they have access to the things.
Speaker B:So they scared to lose the.
Speaker B:Now they can get the women that they actually wanted before they started talking all this other good information.
Speaker B:Now they can get the jewelry.
Speaker B:Now they can have access to the different events and places that they couldn't go before.
Speaker B:Nobody actually cared about what they were talking about.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Have you ever read a small little book, any of you or heard the audiobook?
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's a small book written by Caucasian from England very long time ago and it's called As a man Thinketh.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You familiar with it?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I recommend that all y'all read As a man Thinketh it might take you an hour to read it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's a small book.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You can get the PDF free online.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's one of my favorite books.
Dr. Umar Johnson:They actually introduced me to it in the Garvey movement.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The elders will make me read it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And As a man thinketh, he's talking about control, mind control.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And he says the situation never makes the man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It only reveals you to yourself.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The situation does not make you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It only shows who you always were.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar end up with a snow bunny 20 years from now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I always wanted her.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I always wanted her.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The opportunity just never presented itself.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar sells out for some money next year.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I was always a sellout.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I just didn't have a good enough reason to sell out then.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Come on.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Truth is consistent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If you are about what you claim to be about 20 years, 30 years, 40 years, you don't change.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If you change, you were never real to begin with.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So I don't look at money as changing nobody.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You was already a sellout waiting to happen.
Speaker C:Hey message, let me ask you when it comes to P.
Speaker C:Diddy and Jay Z and let's just stay with Diddy.
Speaker C:Cause I wanna talk about someone had brought up saying if it wasn't for Caresha coming out.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Is that Young Miami?
Speaker B:Young Miami.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Okay.
Speaker C:If it wasn't for her getting you know where Diddy show.
Speaker C:You know he's pulling up.
Speaker C:Gave her a podcast, coming to her shows in concert, letting her talk about their relationship publicly.
Speaker C:Which before he's never let anyone talk about the relationship, then Cassie probably would never been possibly scorned to even file a lawsuit against him.
Speaker C:What would you say to that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I could definitely see that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I could see a possibility where Cassie, out of jealousy, envy or rage decided to come forward because she felt Young Miami Was being treated better than she was.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I could see that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But you know what?
Dr. Umar Johnson:I could see more than that.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I could see her white husband telling her, you better go get that money because we ain't living rich over here.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And you got a whole blackmail case on this man.
Dr. Umar Johnson:A button you ain't push.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You gonna push it.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I think her white husband sent her after Diddy to bring back the cheese.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Brought down the towel.
Speaker D:So how should we be treating the mixed woman?
Dr. Umar Johnson:For me, the mixed race African woman is no different than any other African woman if she identifies full time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The problem with the mixed race African.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Some mixed race Africans not.
Dr. Umar Johnson:All right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The problem with some mixed race Africans is they have not yet made up their mind as to which side of the fence they want to stand.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And with me, they all black.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If you say I'm black, I'm riding with my daddy's blood, or I'm riding with my mama's blood.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And that's African.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm African.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't treat them no differently than anybody in this room.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's only the ones like me and my sister Amber Rose.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Right.
Dr. Umar Johnson:We going back and forth today.
Speaker C:Okay.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And Amber Rose identifies as biracial.
Speaker C:Yes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Which to me means I don't want to be black.
Speaker C:Correct.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So until she re Africanizes herself, she's a snow bunny.
Speaker C:So is it the Rosa Parks effect?
Speaker C:Cause like if you black in the back of the bus, but if you white, you can sit up here with us.
Speaker C:So you feel like some of them don't want to actually go to the back of the bus.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Here's the problem.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Correct, here's the problem.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I sympathize with the mixed race African because your mother and father, out of their own selfishness, mixed race parent parents of an interracial parents are selfish.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You selfish, okay.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because you are God and you putting your seed in the devil, or you are God and you letting the devil put his seed in you one way or the other.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And this child is going to grow up being split, right?
Speaker C:Yes.
Dr. Umar Johnson:With the DNA of the two most polarizing racial groups on the planet earth.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It ain't like an Asian, a Chinese married an Indian.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It ain't like a Latino married a native American, an African married a slave master.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's completely different.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And so that child has to navigate this complex political world where I'm half black, half white.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Black people don't trust me, and white people will never accept it's selfish.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Why do it to the child?
Speaker C:What would you say?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Suffer all kind of depression, drug abuse, don't get me wrong, I know a lot of mixed race Africans who ain't got no issues.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I want to be clear.
Speaker C:Come on now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Some of them are more psychologically sane than those of us who ain't mixed.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You understand?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So it's not everybody.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But my mission to the mixed race brothers and sisters is to know that if you are ready to be African full time, Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar and team Pan African will accept you with no issues.
Dr. Umar Johnson:No issues.
Speaker C:So I have to ask you, but.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You gotta be full time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You can't be black at the Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar lecture and white with your Jewish grandparents at the bar mitzvah.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm not accepting that.
Speaker C:So what would you say to the Diana Ross effect, meaning that she had mixed race children.
Speaker C:Then those children got with white people and had 25, 10, you know, they're like 25%.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So here's my rule.
Speaker C:Go ahead.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Okay.
Dr. Umar Johnson:This is where me and the honorable Marcus Garvey disagree.
Dr. Umar Johnson:The honorable Marcus Garvey said one drop.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Garvey said one drop.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So for Garvey, if you are one drop and you claim African, you good for me though.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And of course, that was a century ago.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I'm Garvey now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:For me you gotta have a one parent rule.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You feel me?
Dr. Umar Johnson:One of your parents better be black.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So now if you say, what if one of the parents is mixed race, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Which would make the child a, a quadroon.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because what you're saying is you have one black grandparent, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Biracial, you got one black parent quadroon, you got one black grandparent, octoroon, you have one black great grandparent octoroon, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now stay with me with the quadroon.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You do have an argument with me.
Speaker C:Okay?
Dr. Umar Johnson:You do have an argument with me.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because if you're a mixed race mother or your mixed race father was raised psychologically black and they very much look black as a lot of mixed race Africans do.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Look at Frederick Douglass, you wouldn't know Frederick Douglass was mixed race in his younger years.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Yes, but once Frederick Douglass hit 40 years old, hell, he's damn near my complexion.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So you can't always tell.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I know mixed race Africans you would think ain't got no white parent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You see what I'm saying?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Nature knows no color line.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And that's why you got to be careful about a hard rule.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So for me, one parent rule, I will consider a quadro.
Dr. Umar Johnson:If somebody comes to me and say, Dr.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Umar, I got one black grandparent, but I was raised black by my mixed race dad and my rich race mom.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I will consider them.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, if somebody comes to me and they are an octoroon 1 8, I'm 1/8 black unless you look like Jimi Hendrix.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't think you passing my test now.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I don't think I can rock with the octoroons.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Quadroons, you got an argument.
Dr. Umar Johnson:A lot of our Latino brothers and sisters are quadroon, you know, the Puerto Ricans and the Dominicans and the Cubans, you know, and my great grandfather was Cuban, by the way, you know what I mean?
Dr. Umar Johnson:So they would be quadroons, many of them.
Speaker B:Now what about the.
Speaker B:If they have the mixed race but they was raised by the white parent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:It don't matter because it's DNA.
Speaker B:Got you.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But remember now, my rule is a two.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I have a two pronged rule, right?
Dr. Umar Johnson:Because that was the conversation I had the other day about Travis Hunter and his fiance and Kendrick Lamar and his wife.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And that is this because some.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And I did see the live respect to Travis Hunter's fiance.
Dr. Umar Johnson:I did see the live.
Dr. Umar Johnson:She has a dark skinned mother.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now whether that was a Latino African mother or an American African mother, I don't know.
Dr. Umar Johnson:But she African.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So she passed the biological test.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Mom is chocolate.
Dr. Umar Johnson:So you passed the first question, but Travis Hunter's fiance gotta pass the second question.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Kendrick Lamar's wife got to pass the second question.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You've established that you have a black parent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Now, established to me that you identify full time as black yourself.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Do y'all see that?
Dr. Umar Johnson:It's not enough to have a black parent.
Dr. Umar Johnson:You got to identify as black full time.
Dr. Umar Johnson:And if you don't, you're not a mixed race African, you a mixed race snow bunny.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Reality street stars nigga mola.
Dr. Umar Johnson:Hey.
