Jaguar Wright & Orlando Brown DISCUSS Speaking Their TRUTH & DISRUPTING The Internet
This podcast episode features a candid and provocative discussion that revolves around the experiences of Jaguar Wright and Orlando Brown, touching on the darker aspects of the entertainment industry. Jaguar delves into her past, revealing how she navigated a world filled with exploitation and manipulation, while also addressing the systemic issues surrounding fame and power dynamics. The conversation highlights the significance of acknowledging and honoring the legacies of artists like Big Al and the impact of their contributions, contrasting it with the current state of the industry. With a blend of personal anecdotes and critical commentary, they explore the realities of being in the limelight, the challenges faced by child stars, and the moral dilemmas that come with success. The episode also touches on various artists and their struggles, emphasizing the importance of truth-telling and the need for accountability in the industry.
Chapters:
- 00:11 - A New Appreciation
- 04:33 - The Legacy of Big Al and the Impact on Dallas Music
- 12:15 - The Influence of Stardom
- 23:00 - A Turning Point: The Legacy of Henrietta Lacks
- 28:36 - Reflections on Reality and Music
- 40:17 - The Consequences of Addiction
- 55:51 - The Dark Reality of Exploitation
- 01:21:31 - The Devil in the Details: Unmasking Sinister Forces
- 01:32:04 - Reflections on Money and Energy
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Transcript
I listen to you warn the children every day when you speak.
Speaker A:I listen to the things you say.
Speaker A:I love your breadcrumb trails.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I love the feet.
Speaker B:Let me tell you something.
Speaker B:I love the fact that you actually diddy and you acting like you not on these real life.
Speaker C:Real life street stars know what time it is.
Speaker A:So RJ French, shout out.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:So he debuted at number two, but he had dropped down onto the charts to 127.
Speaker A:But our shout out, he went back up to 62.
Speaker C:I see people in the comments.
Speaker C:Whoa, there's a.
Speaker C:There's a guy named J.
Speaker C:Prince who got a song called Jayz.
Speaker C:Okay, this is.
Speaker C:I'm here for it.
Speaker C:I mean, I'm in the comments.
Speaker C:Okay, so all it takes is a shout out.
Speaker C:All it takes is a viral shout out.
Speaker C:And love has got.
Speaker A:Guess who else got contacted.
Speaker C:Don't tell me.
Speaker A:My girlfriend, Natalie from Floetry.
Speaker A:You mentioned it, remember?
Speaker A:I was talking about my girlfriend Natalie Stewart and her husband Maddox.
Speaker C:I remember that, yes.
Speaker A:Natalie Stewart is Natalie from Floetry.
Speaker A:Oh, guess what?
Speaker A:I didn't know that as our footage was hitting, so was Amanda Seals and Shay with her lion talking about she was inflow tree and she replaced Natalie.
Speaker A:So Natalie is getting phone calls in London.
Speaker A:One Jack shouted out to my God.
Speaker A:And that Amanda Seals like almost every conversation.
Speaker A:It went just like that.
Speaker A:Oh, shit.
Speaker A:So me and Natalie are talking and I said, I hope you don't mind, I'll put y'all out there.
Speaker A:And she said, jag.
Speaker A:She said, I see what you're doing.
Speaker A:She said, but that fucking.
Speaker A:She was like, why would she lie like that?
Speaker A:Amanda Seals, you were never in Floetry.
Speaker A:You might have gotten considered to try to replace Natalie, but considering that you never went into the studio and you never recorded anything, that would mean that even Marsha didn't have confidence in you.
Speaker A:And it's just wild how these motherfuckers still like to try to take over and assume other people's legacies.
Speaker A:Natalie just won another Grammy.
Speaker A:Nobody's even acknowledged it.
Speaker C:No one's acknowledging it.
Speaker A:But I tell you what.
Speaker A:The shout out that we gave Natalie and Maddox is helping their promo tour for her new project this summer.
Speaker C:Just like that.
Speaker A:Just like that.
Speaker A:J.
Speaker A:French popping up back on the charts after the album fell down because it's so hard for independent artists to compete with the system.
Speaker A:This is why they suppress me.
Speaker A:This is why they hate me, you know?
Speaker A:This is why I have a hard time talking about that gentleman sitting right over there.
Speaker B:Come on, Brother.
Speaker C:Yeah, let's talk.
Speaker C:Let's talk about him.
Speaker C:Because you've been pushing since the first interview.
Speaker A:You want to know what's interesting?
Speaker A:That it takes a.
Speaker A:That's not from Dallas indigenously to acknowledge Big Al's son.
Speaker C:I mean, come on now.
Speaker C:And I want to do like this.
Speaker C:Do you mind just putting your face to a name?
Speaker C:Because I want to just jump in there.
Speaker A:Come on over here now.
Speaker C:Put your face in and just get off camera.
Speaker A:Sit with your sister.
Speaker C:Just sit for 30 seconds and hop right off camera, man.
Speaker C:This is all I need you to do.
Speaker C:You doing that.
Speaker C:Hey, come on, man.
Speaker C:I asked you no question.
Speaker C:Just put your face to a name and I'm gonna talk to jag.
Speaker C:Because in the first interview, you mentioned Rakim Al Jabbar.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And what you.
Speaker C:What you came to Dallas even do for artists like Rakim to push him to the next level.
Speaker C:And here you go three years later.
Speaker A:It's some bullshit.
Speaker A:Because it shouldn't take a Philly girl to come down and honor Big Al sign.
Speaker A:And for those who don't understand what that means, Big Alice to Dallas.
Speaker A:What Pimp C was to Houston.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker A:Am I live?
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker C:Without question.
Speaker C:Without question.
Speaker A:Meanwhile, you got all these so called legends who were cultivated, promoted, helped by Big Al.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker A:This Big Al's son, closest thing to Biggie Smalls in the south anybody's ever gonna see.
Speaker C:No question.
Speaker C:Google him.
Speaker A:And from the second I moved here, all it took was Mousequake saying to me.
Speaker A:Which, by the way, is the man who created y'all theme music.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Which is the reason why we know each other.
Speaker C:Shout out, Mousequake.
Speaker A:Mousequake was mixing his project underground.
Speaker A:God.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker A:And we went down to AOE with another member of the Shun Crew, Todd Macklin, and we did kos.
Speaker C:And if I was to say for anybody who wants to, just like right.
Speaker A:Now, Erykah Badu was a sample on his album.
Speaker A:I appeared in real life.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:Jaguar Wright appeared on Big Al's son's record.
Speaker A:It wasn't as a sample.
Speaker A:I showed up at the studio in real life.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker A:I'm not even from here.
Speaker A:I moved here.
Speaker A:And you've been my little brother ever since I've been here.
Speaker C:All right, Rakim, y'all come hop out.
Speaker C:Y'all Google Rakim Al Jabar, period.
Speaker C:Cypher.
Speaker C:Just type that in, you'll see what it is.
Speaker A:Legacy.
Speaker A:I'm about to ask for quick 16 if I can get it.
Speaker C:We gonna.
Speaker C:We gonna get It.
Speaker C:But we got.
Speaker C:We got.
Speaker A: We got: Speaker C:We got one.
Speaker C:We got one.
Speaker C:We got a guy who came in the other day, a young star who mentioned your name in our own interview that's not out yet, but an Orlando Brown who came in, who now is waiting to talk to you.
Speaker A:Orlando.
Speaker C:We about to bring him in.
Speaker C:We about to bring him in.
Speaker C:You about to see him right there.
Speaker C:Come on in.
Speaker C:And here we go.
Speaker C:Just like that.
Speaker B:Boom.
Speaker B:What you doing.
Speaker A:Sitting here?
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You sitting there talking.
Speaker B:My mama bear sitting over there talking.
Speaker B:That good?
Speaker A:Listen to me.
Speaker A:I'd have paid good money to see you jump all over this couch in real life.
Speaker B:Why couldn't be here?
Speaker B:Yo, yo, I literally had to.
Speaker B:I had another interview and them cats already gave me the upfront.
Speaker B:So I was like, yo, I gotta get.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I had to get my shout out.
Speaker B:I had to give my shout out to.
Speaker B:What is it?
Speaker B:Get active, Podcast, shoot or show?
Speaker B:Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker B:It was cool.
Speaker B:But I'm really proud of you and I just really wanted to just touch, you know, touch.
Speaker B:Touch your heart and just let you know, you know.
Speaker B:You know, it's a lot of people that been jumping on this wave, this true telling wave.
Speaker B:You know, I'm the.
Speaker B:I'm the only one that's going to tell you.
Speaker B:Like, the truth is, as far as, you know, I'm saying who I could.
Speaker B:Who I could.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And you are definitely the old to the K.
Speaker B:Like, I have.
Speaker B:I have no.
Speaker B:I have no rebuttals.
Speaker B:I have nothing to say.
Speaker B:You are on their head.
Speaker B:I just wish I was there with you.
Speaker A:Listen to me.
Speaker A:I got a birthday coming up now.
Speaker A:A lot of people like collecting jewelry and stuff like that.
Speaker A:I like collecting experiences.
Speaker A:I'd appreciate it if you'd be my special guest in Las Vegas at my birthday party.
Speaker B:Okay, well, I would love to do that.
Speaker B:Let me know.
Speaker B:I mean, what's.
Speaker B:I mean, we'll get the particulars, but that's a definite year.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I mean, you know how to get to Vegas.
Speaker B:My daughter's out there in Vegas.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So y'all better know how to get to Vegas.
Speaker A:When you come down, you pick up and you bring about a house for pancake breakfast.
Speaker B:I bet we're gonna see what's happening.
Speaker A:We go see what's happening.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:You can ask all these gentlemen.
Speaker A:I'm a qualified chef to.
Speaker B:Or not.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think.
Speaker B:I think Dave Chappelle was talking about the pancakes that you make on his show.
Speaker A:Well, you know, I am Rick James.
Speaker A:What's so funny is when we get together in person.
Speaker A:I'll tell you about the jam sessions that I used to go to with Rick James and Eddie Murphy and Raphael De and all of that stuff.
Speaker A:Oh, we had a time.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I know you had all the times.
Speaker B:Every time in the world was yours and it still is.
Speaker B:And, and we just now getting to hear your music and.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I'm just interested into.
Speaker B:Into what you got going on.
Speaker B:Yo, your R B is crazy.
Speaker A:You know what, though?
Speaker B:Your R is nuts.
Speaker A:I have a rebuttal for you.
Speaker B:What that R B.
Speaker B:Have you heard?
Speaker B:Yo, my assistant.
Speaker B:Yo, yo, her army is nuts.
Speaker A:Singing the way you've mastered communication, I'll be somebody.
Speaker B:Well, see, that's why we gotta get together because, you know, iron sharpens iron, baby.
Speaker B:And it's only gonna take just for five minutes.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I want them to stop.
Speaker A:I don't think you understand.
Speaker A:Every time I hear somebody say something negative about you, there's a moment where I literally try to jump through the screen and choke the dog.
Speaker B:And you know what the thing is?
Speaker B:They, you know, they haven't seen.
Speaker B:They haven't seen, you know, anything when it.
Speaker B:I mean, everybody's just getting, you know, we've been through so much and in the world, and everybody's just now, you know, starting to listen to the truth.
Speaker B:And, you know, everything that you.
Speaker B:Everything that you're saying and everything I've been saying and you know, what they've been hearing is definitely a breath of fresh air.
Speaker B:But, you know, I would just like to, like I said, I would like to buy.
Speaker B:I would like to vibe with you on your work on, you know, something right now.
Speaker A:Do you know who Judy Garland is?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you know, they.
Speaker B:They gave that.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker B:Do you know what they did to that woman?
Speaker B:They get.
Speaker B:They put her on drugs.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:Yeah, they put her on drugs.
Speaker B:They beat her up.
Speaker B:She had to deal with the alcohol.
Speaker A:How the hell is her story to say as these Nickelodeon kids right now?
Speaker A:Why not?
Speaker B:I mean, hey, I.
Speaker A:Unacknowledged and unchecked.
Speaker A:And I just want to say to you, you motherfucking warrior, you are the example for every child star.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:I've been watching you since you were little, peanut.
Speaker A:And when you made it to that.
Speaker A:So Raven.
Speaker A:And I don't even know if, you know, I used to ghostwrite for Raven when she was recording in her late teen years.
Speaker B:Nobody be knowing.
Speaker B:No, nobody know.
Speaker A:Nobody Knows ghostwriting for her just like I did for Mario.
Speaker A:And I remember her talking about you.
Speaker A:And she was.
Speaker A:She was spicy about you.
Speaker A:So when I heard her sitting on the show talking all that craziness, I'm like, that's not what you would say about Orlando when you was a girl.
Speaker A:She said.
Speaker B:She said.
Speaker B:She said.
Speaker B:She said Orlando put her in.
Speaker B:She said, Lando.
Speaker B:She said, lando put something.
Speaker B:Her talk to a shrink.
Speaker B:But she had already been married to some.
Speaker A:That part.
Speaker B:What did I do?
Speaker B:We've been trying with the word.
Speaker B:The world's been trying to get her the world been trying to get her ass to wake up.
Speaker B:Where the.
Speaker B:What the did I do?
Speaker B:I didn't do.
Speaker B:I couldn't have did that much.
Speaker A:Can't get her to wake up.
Speaker A:It's a lost cause.
Speaker B:I mean, all I did was eat her.
Speaker B:I couldn't.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's all I did.
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:It was a rap from there.
Speaker A:And then whatever you did, you did it right.
Speaker A:You did it right.
Speaker A:I just want to let you know that us.
Speaker A:Whatever it was translating.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:The us.
Speaker B:The us.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right, we go.
Speaker B:Yeah, I got to get to your birthday party, and we gotta see what's going on.
Speaker B:Yeah, I gotta definitely get to the birthday party.
Speaker A:I need you to text the fellows your favorite meal, because I have five chefs working now.
Speaker A:My birthday party is an international dinner party.
Speaker A:It's two days.
Speaker A:There'll be 50 courses served over the course of two days.
Speaker A:And it'll be honoring all of the foods from my favorite countries with keepsakes and stuff like that.
Speaker A:So if you have a favorite international meal that you like, ask my guest the honor.
Speaker A:Just let me know what it is, what country it is so we can do what we need to do.
Speaker A:And I'll make sure I introduce it at my party as the Orlando Brown meal.
Speaker B:We have to have the fufu.
Speaker A:They're done.
Speaker A:Done.
Speaker B:We have to have the fufu.
Speaker B:And I will go down to the after hour to find the poop home and bless it.
Speaker A:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker A:Let me tell you something.
Speaker A:You put a little.
Speaker B:We must have the food poop.
Speaker B:The food poop, please.
Speaker A:I agree with you.
Speaker A:You know I'm bisexual.
Speaker B:That's okay.
Speaker B:Don't worry.
Speaker B:Don't worry.
Speaker B:Don't worry.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:Don't worry.
Speaker B:It's a lot of people out here.
Speaker B:Tri sexual.
Speaker B:Don't even worry about that.
Speaker B:We can handle this.
Speaker B:It's all right.
Speaker A:My husband, a tri sexual.
Speaker B:Yeah, See?
Speaker B:It's all right.
Speaker B:Don't worry.
Speaker B:Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker B:We bad, right?
Speaker B:Don't worry about nothing.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Because, you know, we.
Speaker B:We just got to.
Speaker B:We just got to get to this birthday party.
Speaker B:We got to figure out what's going on.
Speaker B:Yeah, we got to figure it out.
Speaker A:Are you really my son?
Speaker B:If you have to ask, then.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't have the same no slap that you have.
Speaker A:I need you to go my husband up.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:Listen, don't be.
Speaker B:Look, just because you are my mama don't mean I get to get in your fights and you got to just.
Speaker A:You got to just.
Speaker B:Yeah, you got to handle some now.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, just cause you my mama don't mean I'm about to get killed.
Speaker A:I got a side joke.
Speaker A:I got a side job on the way.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:All right, well, don't worry about nothing.
Speaker B:I mean, I got.
Speaker B:Okay, give me some casamigo.
Speaker A:We'll talk about it.
Speaker B:A little bit of cost, a little bit of casamigo.
Speaker B:We're gonna have to talk about it.
Speaker B:We're gonna have to talk about it.
Speaker A:We're gonna talk about it over a meal.
Speaker B:That part.
Speaker A:People, I got three questions to ask you.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker A:All right, and then it's two.
Speaker A:It's two part for three.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:French toast or pancakes?
Speaker B:Banana.
Speaker B:Banana pancakes.
Speaker A:Banana pancakes.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:I'll do the banana pancakes because I never tried them in the Rock.
Speaker B:We talk about them all the time.
Speaker A:I make mean banana crepes too, now.
Speaker B:All right, back.
Speaker A:Scrambled eggs or Fridays?
Speaker B:I gotta do fried eggs because that.
Speaker A:Should be loose, huh?
Speaker A:Okay, now this is important.
Speaker A:7up cake or peach cobbler?
Speaker B:I must say.
Speaker B:I'm gonna say seven UP cake.
Speaker A:Well, that's great because it's medicated and it's gonna get you high off your ass.
Speaker A:Why can't you remember that medicated 7up cake?
Speaker A:And that peach.
Speaker A:That cobbler takes to Knapsville.
Speaker A:I'ma tell you, they eat that and they be like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:See, I'll be on that treadmill.
Speaker B:I'll be.
Speaker B:I eat that peach cobbler, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And be thinking that it's.
Speaker B:And not, you know, go right to sleep.
Speaker A:I might.
Speaker A:I might make you, like, a little medicated fake.
Speaker B:And let me eat it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I just put the THC on it and have you a little cup of watermelon, cbd, lemonade.
Speaker B:With the.
Speaker B:With the vagina.
Speaker B:The vagina.
Speaker B:The vagina dessert.
Speaker B:The vagina dessert, yes.
Speaker B:Vagina.
Speaker A:Medicated.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm with it.
Speaker B:Some medicated vagina.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Talk to me.
Speaker B:I could dig it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Listen to me.
Speaker A:I'm a good time.
Speaker A:I can be a hard time or I can be a good time.
Speaker A:And guess what?
Speaker A:If you're lucky, you'll get both at the same time.
Speaker A:Now I need.
Speaker A:I'm so sorry.
Speaker A:I need.
Speaker A:We were drinking on that Jaguar.
Speaker A:Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker A:Baby, they found the bottle.
Speaker A:They got me in the bottle.
Speaker A:Look at it here.
Speaker A:You see this?
Speaker A:It's that Jaguar.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I seen that and I ran.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I ran.
Speaker B:I ran from the Jaguar.
Speaker B:I ran from it.
Speaker A:You see?
Speaker A:I'ma just rub it and then the genie gonna pop up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I show.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:We had that crown royal over there in that boy.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker A:You drinking crown without me?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Had a little bit of crowd.
Speaker B:Just a little bit.
Speaker B:Not too much without you.
Speaker A:Without you, you know?
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:Yeah, you sit.
Speaker B:Yeah, you sitting over there.
Speaker B:You know, you're sitting over there with Drake and them boys.
Speaker A:Listen, I'm gonna tell you something right now.
Speaker A:Did you say Drake?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:My boy.
Speaker A:I know what it is that make.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Every time I hear Drake, all I think of is Aubrey.
Speaker A:Aubrey.
Speaker A:Graham.
Speaker B:My boy.
Speaker B:Aubrey, Aubrey.
Speaker A:You want to know what's funny?
Speaker A:Do you remember Aubrey's album?
Speaker A:The nothing was the same.
Speaker A:He was the boy and the man, and it was the painting.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was.
Speaker B:That was the pound cake.
Speaker B:The pound cake album and all that.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No, that's my cousin that painted that.
Speaker B:He painted the picture.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, whoa.
Speaker A:See, since you, my son, that's your family, we gotta give him the paint a picture of you, you know, it's so beautiful because if you go down to Marvin's room in la, my cousin Kadia painted that as well.
Speaker A:And he also painted the mural of Michael Jackson's life.
Speaker A:But what I'm loving about what Qadir is doing is he's been painting pictures of truth.
Speaker A:And the last big picture of truth that he painted, it went in the Smithsonian in Washington.
Speaker A:It was a very odd time.
Speaker A: It was: Speaker A:Oprah Winfrey walked the picture of Henrietta Lacks that my cousin Kadir painted into the Smithsonian, and my son was dead five days later.
Speaker A:Five days later, my family has that huge moment.
Speaker A:And then my son died.
Speaker A:And then me and my cousin Kadir sitting in the loft, downtown la, crying for his accomplishment and for our loss.
Speaker A:He should paint you.
Speaker B:Yeah, he should.
Speaker B:He could.
Speaker D:He could.
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker A:You are the symbol of.
Speaker A:Of truth.
Speaker A:And whether you know it or not, you're an ark.
Speaker A:Because all of the secrets of all of the children that were affected like you were affected, they live in you.
Speaker A:I listen to you warn the children every day when you speak.
Speaker A:I listen to the things you say.
Speaker A:I love your breadcrumb trails.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I love the thing.
Speaker B:Let me tell you something.
Speaker B:I love the fact that you actually diddy and you acting like you not on these.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I love the fact that you popping your so smooth and they and you'll never be caught because you ain't do.
Speaker B:I love the fact that can't really, really touch you.
Speaker B:Only because they made the deal with you based off of the fact that they, you know, they.
Speaker B:They did some things that we recorded and we got their ass.
Speaker B:So don't worry about moms.
Speaker A:You know I always say, if you don't want to be a part of my story, don't work so hard to be a part of my story.
Speaker A:If you don't be talking about you don't do with me.
Speaker A:These is mad because they thought I was high and they thought I was drunk.
Speaker A:I sitting up in there faking high.
Speaker A:I know how to fake karma Actress.
Speaker A:God damn it.
Speaker B:Tell them mom.
Speaker A:I the I'm doing.
Speaker A:You should see me over there at Allen Thick house with Naomi Campbell coming through picking out her new victims for Epstein Island.
Speaker A:It was a goddamn mess.
Speaker B:It was a goddamn mess.
Speaker A:You know how it that was strange running around grabbing and checking they and stealing their ID at the same time.
Speaker A:Like you ever seen a walk up on a talking about o and then going through their looking for their passport.
Speaker A:So when you get on that plane and go to Epstein island, your ass can't leave Gatekeeper.
Speaker A:Gatekeeper lost Alan Thick and Naomi would come over there.
Speaker A:That was the first time I seen a I swear to God, I didn't even want to see Naomi.
Speaker A:I did it.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:I didn't want to see Paris Hillbussy either, but I seen it at the studio, had it up on the screen.
Speaker A:So let me tell you how I go.
Speaker A:So I'm sitting there at the Allen Thick party.
Speaker A:I came with Jimmy.
Speaker A:You remember Jimmy from New America that worked for Andre Harrell before they made him have a heart attack and had Russell Lyon saying that he died from a bad diet.
Speaker A:Piece of the reason is because he.
Speaker D:Didn'T drink enough lemongrass.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You was tapping in to keep Morris stem cells before she was a full embryo.
Speaker A:Don't play.
Speaker A:We Know what it is.
Speaker A:But my thing is, right, so all these running around with kids doing all this shit, and they do it out in the open.
Speaker A:I think the thing that people really have a hard time understanding about the life that we come from because I'm a little older than you.
Speaker A:I came before you, but me and you seem the same things.
Speaker A:The shit that fucked me up is they think that this world out here, consuming all this, is the real world.
Speaker A:And it's not.
Speaker A:It's the fake world.
Speaker A:You and I live in the real world.
Speaker A:And that's why they have such a hard time getting it, because they hear us say all this wild, and they like, oh, my God, that's so wild.
Speaker A:But it's really not, because this is happening every day.
Speaker A:This is going on all the time.
Speaker A:And because we got behind the velvet rope, we got to see how the real world operates.
Speaker A:And they get to live in their delusions that it's all entertainment.
Speaker A:So I just wanted to say this one thing to you.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:I want to play you a song.
Speaker A:Can I play him a song?
Speaker A:You ain't got to worry about copyright because it's my music.
Speaker C:Play it.
Speaker A:Play it like it's original.
Speaker A:Let me go up in here.
Speaker A:I wrote a song, and let's make sure Orlando can hear it.
Speaker A:It's called look at me, Takashi69.
Speaker A:I wrote it after my son was unalived.
Speaker A:And I wrote it about what this really looks like.
Speaker A:And I just wanted to hear what you think about the lyrics.
Speaker B:Look at me I'm a shit I'm.
Speaker A:A shepherd look at me Got the mugging power Word that I'm so rich I'm so rich look at me I don't.
Speaker A:Look at me I don't look at me I'm freak around the sun.
Speaker C:That'S hard.
Speaker B:Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo Please do, because.
Speaker B:All right, so listen, you asked my opinion.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker B:You know, I.
Speaker B:Honestly.
Speaker B:It's gonna go this way.
Speaker B:You know, I feel like.
Speaker B:I feel like you wrote a lot for Jill Scott.
Speaker B:I feel like you wrote a lot for Angie Stone.
Speaker B:I feel like you wrote a lot of records for a lot of our.
Speaker B:You know, especially Ndiari, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, I feel like you actually.
Speaker B:You did that for them.
Speaker B:And I feel like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Not that they don't give a fuck, but necessarily like they don't actually respect the fact that, you know, you're.
Speaker B:You're a doper artist.
Speaker A:Why would you respect what was meant to be erased because you couldn't keep up with it.
Speaker B:Okay, Making.
Speaker B:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:Connect the dots.
Speaker B:Because that makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, yeah, they.
Speaker B:They owe you.
Speaker B:They owe you way more.
Speaker A:Make sure that the guys send you this record tonight.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker A:Because what would make me happy is if you would be the principal in the video.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker A:Because you are the symbol of surviving this motherfucking game.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker B:Whatever you need.
Speaker A:Whatever you.
Speaker B:Whatever you need from me.
Speaker A:But you.
Speaker B:Whatever you what.
Speaker B:Whatever you need from me, you got it.
Speaker A:I need.
Speaker A:I need you to be the star of the video for that song.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker B:Done deal.
Speaker A:And I would like it if you would help write the treatment.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker B:Done deal.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I think this treatment should be written by someone that has survived what they have put on us, could be properly R rated without someone who has suffered and survived.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker B:You totally got it.
Speaker B:Whatever you need from me.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:You don't have to give me no money.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I just want to work with you.
Speaker B:We got it.
Speaker B:Don't worry about nothing.
Speaker A:Well, you know, my daddy always used to say, when you're the talent, you are the money, and money don't worry about itself.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:I'm sure will be made.
Speaker A:I'm more interested in making history and getting history right with you.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker B:No problem.
Speaker B:And I'll be on my way.
Speaker B:Look, I'll be on my way.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:All you gotta do is finish up your interview.
Speaker B:Let me stop bombarding on your interview.
Speaker B:Finish up your interview and call me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, y'all call me.
Speaker B:Y'all call me back when she done.
Speaker B:Was she done with the interview?
Speaker B:I'm gonna let y'all finish.
Speaker A:If you ever need me, even if it's just to pray at any time of the day, call me.
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker B:I got you, mama.
Speaker A:Love you.
Speaker B:I love you more.
Speaker B:Don't worry about nothing.
Speaker A:And from in here, I love you.
Speaker B:With all my heart.
Speaker B:You know it.
Speaker A:I want to thank you for your strength because I know there are so many children in Hollywood that use your example on how to survive.
Speaker A:God bless you.
Speaker B:Oh, God bless you.
Speaker B:Don't cry, mama.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:I love you.
Speaker B:Hey, y'all, thank you for letting me bombard for a little pal.
Speaker B:Love you, Mama.
Speaker B:Don't cry.
Speaker B:I'm gonna see you in a minute, okay?
Speaker A:Serving you food?
Speaker B:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker B:Mama, I see you in a minute.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:Hey, don't.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker B:Don't make my mama cry, cuz.
Speaker B:On Peru.
Speaker B:All right, man.
Speaker B:Hey, here's to you, mama.
Speaker B:I love you.
Speaker B:Have a great rest of your interview.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:God.
Speaker A:Listen me this to you.
Speaker B:Baby.
Speaker B:All right, Have a good one.
Speaker B:I love you.
Speaker A:I start chugging.
Speaker B:All right, bye.
Speaker A:When I get into my college moments, I start doing dumb.
Speaker B:Don't worry.
Speaker B:That's the birthday party.
Speaker B:That's the birthday party.
Speaker B:I'm out.
Speaker B:Do this right now.
Speaker A:If you see me throwing up, I'm gonna have real long braids.
Speaker A:Just hold my hair back.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker A:I got you.
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:I love you.
Speaker B:I'll catch you in a bit.
Speaker B:All right now.
Speaker A:And I want to tell you something, everybody that does not give a.
Speaker A:Because when you got big, that give a about you, that's all that matters.
Speaker A:You are our hero, and I love you.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker A:God bless you.
Speaker C:God bless Orlando.
Speaker C:Man, oh, man, that's amazing.
Speaker C:Oh, that's amazing.
Speaker A:Oh, I knew to wear glasses today.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:I got them off of Epstein Island.
Speaker A:I cannot say where they are in the world.
Speaker A:What I can say is, when they got into the boat, they were roughed.
Speaker B:Real life is.
Speaker C:It ain't real life.
Speaker C:Real Life street stars, you know what time it is?
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:Real life street stars, man.
Speaker C:We back with jag, man.
Speaker C:And I gotta say, Jaguar, you just did.
Speaker C:I would say what we would think is unthinkable.
Speaker C:2 million views within a couple of days.
Speaker C:A million view on part two, a million view on part three.
Speaker C:The Real Life street stars interview.
Speaker C:Back on a blue couch.
Speaker C:You killed it.
Speaker C:And, you know, thank you first and foremost, because, you know, only you could do such things on this couch to make us anonymous.
Speaker C:But we have to work our way through kind of like a little bit of a recap of what the interview was.
Speaker C:And the first thing at the end, let's work forward, is you went live today on your own Instagram to address Christopher Williams.
Speaker C:Who?
Speaker C:He said, man, what Jaguar talking about?
Speaker A:No, he said I was a crackhead.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker C:He did say that.
Speaker A:And this is all I have to say to that.
Speaker A:Somebody go get me a cup.
Speaker A:I piss in it right now, right here on camera.
Speaker A:And I guarantee you the only thing you'll find in my urine is alcohol and thc.
Speaker A:That's all I do.
Speaker A:I am a retired drug dealer.
Speaker A:Never get high on your own.
Speaker A:Supply 10 crack commandments.
Speaker A:I remember when the song came out, I Don't do methods.
Speaker A:I don't do coke.
Speaker A:I don't do heroin.
Speaker A:I sold that.
Speaker A:More importantly than that, my father was a drug and alcoholics counselor, a retired addict himself.
Speaker A:I knew everything about drugs by the age of seven.
Speaker A:My father used to sweat out heroin addicts in our basement.
Speaker A:See, I thought it was crazy when I was young, but as an adult, I understood why my father brought his work home with him.
Speaker A:Because he wanted us to see where this shit ended so we wouldn't want to begin.
Speaker A:See, when you see a Growned ass man, 6 foot 7, 267 pounds, strong, crying like a baby, having heroin withdrawals at the age of five, it becomes very clear that's not the you want to do when.
Speaker A:When your father goes into a crack house with a.45 in one hand and a Bible in the other and walks out with them both with blood on them, with your God sister in her arms because he had to beat the nigga that was raping her off of her because her mama sold her to get high for the month.
Speaker A:Like I had to sit with my God sister when my dad had to literally beat a nigga off for her from being raped.
Speaker A:We were the same age and she looked so much older than me.
Speaker A:We were 10 years old.
Speaker A:Her body was 10, but her eyes was 80.
Speaker A:She looks so old to me, the nigga that I had to shoot to stop him from raping her clean.
Speaker A:Shoot.
Speaker A:See, I know what drugs do and I know what people will do for drugs.
Speaker A:To accuse me of being an addict, whether you're accusing me of being a meth head or a crackhead or a cokehead or whatever it is, it's insane.
Speaker A:I save people from drugs just like I save people from sex traffickers.
Speaker A:I save people.
Speaker A:I wonder how many people are gonna be saved after my 2C tutorial.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker C:It's crazy.
Speaker A:Like, y'all motherfuckers don't like the way I say shit.
Speaker A:But it's effective.
Speaker A:It saves lives.
Speaker A:Fuck you mean?
Speaker A:So you were saying Christopher Williams a dick sucking hoe?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:What did you say about him?
Speaker C:I mean, what.
Speaker C:What do you.
Speaker C:Cause he's like, I'm from Brooklyn and I would never.
Speaker A:And he's a dick sucking hoe from Brooklyn.
Speaker A:He's a light skin, lightweight JBL headphones, stealing.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Pussy ass motherfucker.
Speaker C: That was: Speaker A: Jack suck and: Speaker A:That was less than a decade ago.
Speaker A:Who the fuck sells some fucking steals JBLs, steal the beats.
Speaker A:You're an artist, you should know the difference in sound quality.
Speaker A:Ho.
Speaker A:The Beats.
Speaker A:The jbl.
Speaker A:The beats that you stole.
Speaker A:The jbl.
Speaker C:The Beats were hotter back then.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:So with that being said, yes, you've ruffled some feathers.
Speaker A:Fuck em.
Speaker A:And I fuck the feathers.
Speaker A:Put him in a pillow.
Speaker A:Go to sleep.
Speaker C:Faith Evans just responded to your comment.
Speaker A:Uh huh.
Speaker C:She's saying she heard your story about, you know, yalls and she said hilarious.
Speaker C:That's the only comment.
Speaker C:Hilarious.
Speaker A:Got it.
Speaker C:Like that's an interesting rebuttal.
Speaker A:I don't understand.
Speaker A:Where's the rebuttal?
Speaker A:What is hilarious?
Speaker A:What I said or the fact that she didn't have anything else to say other than hilarious?
Speaker A:See, I find that hilarious.
Speaker A:One word responses.
Speaker A:I find hilarious.
Speaker A:Cause see, a one word response is you looking for someone to let you off the hook for something that you don't wanna say.
Speaker A:And at the end of the day it is hilarious.
Speaker A:You married Biggie when you wanted Tupac.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:You wanted Grammys but you settled for ghost writing for a whore like Mary J.
Speaker A:Blige.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:You wanted to build real R and B diva's franchise and you settled for Stevie J and Mona Scott and Jocelyn Hernandez and the masked singer while he films you in your home disrespecting you.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:You married your child's godfather and he was never looking out for neither one of y'all.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:Or the fact that Valetta Wallace would have rather had little Kim, a woman that really loved her son, than you as a daughter in law.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:You want to talk about hilarious?
Speaker A:Hilarious is settling for a life that is so far beneath you cousin.
Speaker A:When you're one of the most talented bitches in the world.
Speaker A:Hilarious is pretending like you didn't know that you weren't sure whether or not you were carrying Tupac's babies.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:Hilarious is both of the niggas that I know and kick it with that worked at Death Row that heard Pac fucking you in the booth and took pictures of your very high yellow ass getting fucked by that very gorgeous dark skinned thin man who was so much different than your obese husband who you didn't know.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker C:Bars.
Speaker A:If Faith have twins, she probably have two pox.
Speaker A:Get it?
Speaker A:Two pox.
Speaker C:Bars.
Speaker A:Your husband said that.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, what were you saying?
Speaker C:So yeah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker C:You said it right there.
Speaker C:But all right again, we just recapping because we just recapping and things have happened since You.
Speaker A:I love you, cousin.
Speaker A:Oh, I do.
Speaker C:Shout out Faith Evans, man.
Speaker A:Tell the truth and shame the devil.
Speaker A:Just look at Julie.
Speaker A:Julie's getting clean.
Speaker A:That book that she wrote about being Brian McN's first wife and helping all of his victims, our cousin, it's changed everything for her.
Speaker A:Go and look at your cousin Julie McKnight Johnson's channel, and look at how she's performing.
Speaker A:It's so clean.
Speaker A:Get clean.
Speaker A:And I mean get clean.
Speaker A:Because we know how Stevie J loves feeding cocaine to the women he lives with.
Speaker C:And that's what I'm gonna ask you about.
Speaker C:We seen Stevie J since your last interview, come out to Puff Daddy's defense.
Speaker C:And he said the one thing that kind of threw me off where he said he has never.
Speaker C:Puff Daddy Diddy has never done no crime.
Speaker C:I said, wow, that's a blanket statement to say no crime for him to say that.
Speaker C:No crime.
Speaker C:I'm like, you kind of fucking yourself up by even saying that.
Speaker A:He's on a thousand fucking sex tapes.
Speaker A:Fuck else he supposed to say?
Speaker A:What he gonna say?
Speaker A:Did he guilty or what?
Speaker A:What the fuck he gon say?
Speaker A:He's got this.
Speaker A:He's using him his little sex tapes.
Speaker A:And as the archetype to.
Speaker A:To recruit new look at Stevie J.
Speaker B:Bieber in the ass.
Speaker A:That's all you gotta do.
Speaker C:And the world knows that Stevie J sex tapes date back to him.
Speaker C:And marriage was a Mary J.
Speaker C:Blige on the 6th.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, it goes back.
Speaker A:Did you ever see the tape with him and Evelyn?
Speaker C:Yeah, him and Eve.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:Yeah, him and Eve.
Speaker C:Evelyn, Evelyn.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker C:Yes, it dates back to that.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, Major blush, but it dates back to her.
Speaker A:He fucked her too.
Speaker C:Oh, God damn.
Speaker A:And I ain't saying allegedly married.
Speaker C:Yeah, you know, it's funny, Jag, because you mentioned, like when you said, hey, I want to learn what the tuci was.
Speaker C:I didn't know what it was.
Speaker C:And you learned about it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then just last week, you hear about Diddy's bodyguard arrested for drugs paraphernalia.
Speaker C:I'm like, okay.
Speaker C:It seems to be like everything keeps unraveling slowly but surely.
Speaker C:And you know, he like, oh, he def.
Speaker C:You know, you hear Stevie J, he's never done nothing legal.
Speaker C:But you hear his bodyguard getting arrested for drugs, and you only have to assume that these drugs are what you know.
Speaker C:This is Diddy's bodyguard getting arrested.
Speaker A:Stevie J was at the house in Miami when they pulled up, bad boy style.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, he was.
Speaker C:He Said, I'm at Dee Dee's house.
Speaker A:Don't forget he was there.
Speaker A:They had him in twisty ties too.
Speaker A:Like they had the kids over there in the Beverly Hills.
Speaker C:I forget about that.
Speaker A:Fuck was you doing there?
Speaker C:I think he was getting hit.
Speaker A:He's a fucking ghoul.
Speaker A:Let me tell you something.
Speaker A:If Diddy and fucking Stevie J was a movie, it would be the Vampire of Brooklyn.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Diddy would be Eddie Murphy and CVJ would be Kadeem Hardison.
Speaker A:The ghoul.
Speaker C:Got it.
Speaker A:The nigga.
Speaker A:He kept falling apart.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Loose his fingers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he was down because he was waiting for his moment.
Speaker A:That's Stevie J.
Speaker D:Orlando Brown said, Diddy's not going to jail.
Speaker A:I can understand why he would say that.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Can you break that down a little bit more?
Speaker D:Why you think he said that?
Speaker A:Well, considering that the is selling his own God evidence that would put him in jail against him on the dark net to the highest bidder, why would he sell evidence of his debauchery and savagery?
Speaker A:Why would he sell on the darknet his tapes of all just terrible.
Speaker A:Wanna know why?
Speaker A:Cause he doesn't intend to stand trial.
Speaker C:Is it.
Speaker C:Is is he protecting people or are people protecting him?
Speaker A:Oh, no, he's selling it because he needs the cash.
Speaker A:The last freak off tape that just got sold on the darknet, which I know because I monitor, went for 500 million.
Speaker A:It had multiple stars in it.
Speaker A:Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, Drake.
Speaker A:It was a really interesting night in Calabasas.
Speaker A:And he just sold that footage.
Speaker D:How come you think it doesn't get leaked to the public?
Speaker A:The darknet?
Speaker A:Yeah, like because of the dark coin.
Speaker A:Most people don't even know that the dark coin exists, but that's how they're trading for all of the flesh they sell.
Speaker A:Which is why I became so outraged last year when the girls.
Speaker A:When the twins turned 16 and he had them dressed like prostitutes and then he auctioned them off as NFTs because the NFT that he sold them to was attached to that dark fucking coin.
Speaker A:It was like a promissory note to sell his daughters to the highest bidder.
Speaker D:You see movies like Hostile.
Speaker D:Do places like that really exist?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Do the things that go on in places like that exist?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Shit.
Speaker C:It's funny because there are three women.
Speaker A:I know right now in my life.
Speaker A:They've been in my life for six years.
Speaker A:I've been caring for them for three years.
Speaker A:I got them off of Epstein Island.
Speaker A:I cannot say where they are in the world.
Speaker A:What I can say is, when they got into the boat, they were roughed.
Speaker C:Mm.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker A:Wanna know how they ended up on Epstein island, please.
Speaker A:They auditioned to be models for music videos.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:Casting couch.
Speaker A:When they got to Miami, they had to show and turn over their id and they collected their passports, and then they drugged them.
Speaker A:And then the next thing you know, they were in a storage container getting fucked by a bunch of weird strangers on camera who were bidding for all of the terrible things that were happening to them live online.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker A:After they made it through that, that's when they were sent to Rick Ross's music videos shoots as groupies and extras to make sure that they could walk around in society without looking like victims.
Speaker A:And then after that, that's when they were shipped off to Epstein island to be broken in and to be readied for Dubai and my scalp.
Speaker A:When they got into the boat and I looked at them, they didn't have to tell me shit.
Speaker A:And neither one of them, none of them, they didn't speak for weeks.
Speaker A:But when you spend time with strangers and they finally feel safe enough to go to sleep, and then they start talking in their sleep and you hear the shit that they yell.
Speaker C:You know, it's crazy because as you sit here and we talk about hostiling or, you.
Speaker A:Know, these three girls that I'm telling you about were in videos that are being played on online today.
Speaker A:And they appeared in those videos after they had already been sodomized.
Speaker A:Systematically beaten star.
Speaker A:But they were smiling in those videos, though.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's crazy because, you know, you sit here and, you know, we got your story before where you actually said you seen what a saw does to human flesh.
Speaker C:Like, having a saw.
Speaker C:I mean, we got Terrence Gangster in the building too, as well.
Speaker C:And he literally said he's seen the same thing.
Speaker C:What he seen a saw, what it does to human flesh.
Speaker C:And I'm like, I don't know what it does to a person's mind or psyche when they see that in person, it changes you.
Speaker A:Like, it changes you.
Speaker A:There is a place inside of me where I have the ability to either see a human body as a human being or just pieces.
Speaker C:Now, Jack, you.
Speaker C:You said Justin Bieber.
Speaker C:And I have to ask you, because he just has.
Speaker C:There's a picture circulating online where they.
Speaker A:Show Justin, this is the new Tevin Campbell.
Speaker C:Yeah, they show him crying.
Speaker A:He's the new Tevin Campbell.
Speaker C:You're almost giving him a gay way to speak his truth of what happened.
Speaker A:Cause I wish Tevin Campbell would speak to him or.
Speaker A:Or for him?
Speaker A:Because the same thing that they did to him, they're doing the Bieber right now.
Speaker A:And I have evidence.
Speaker A:That poor kid.
Speaker A:And all because he got discovered by Usher.
Speaker A:And Usher took her right over there to the Deadlift and let the good times roll.
Speaker C:Let the good times roll.
Speaker C:So let me ask you this, because you did the domino effect with rook and you said something in which you mentioned that you've seen the devil.
Speaker C:You've seen him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:From your experiences, have you seen him enact his ways within a human being where you've seen a devil and a person come out?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And I've seen him in real time.
Speaker A:When you're being raped, if you're brave enough to look into your rapist's eyes, I promise you, you'll see nothing.
Speaker A:Nothing.
Speaker A:There is no human there.
Speaker A:It's almost like they're in a trance.
Speaker A:You can talk to rapists and they'll tell you even in that moment, there is a space where they lost their self.
Speaker A:They don't even remember.
Speaker A:It's possession of the flesh to watch a person give up utter control of themselves and allow that energy to come in.
Speaker A:I stared at a man raping me, choking me, and I saw nothing.
Speaker A:And that's when I knew, this isn't a person anymore.
Speaker A:Which is why the idea of picking that knife up and slitting his fucking throat didn't bother me at all.
Speaker A:That wasn't a person anymore.
Speaker A:There wasn't a person in there.
Speaker A:You want to know what's really fucked up?
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker A:Can you imagine if every artist that's ever been goddamn violated decided to settle their own score?
Speaker A:How many dead bodies would we be cleaning up?
Speaker C:So that.
Speaker C:That takes me to.
Speaker C:When you speak on Aaliyah, people really was honed in.
Speaker C:When you spoke on Dame Dash Aaliyah, and you're speaking on something where you're saying, I wish that situation would be investigated further.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:To be investigated, Period.
Speaker C:Period.
Speaker A:It was never investigated.
Speaker A:Hype was never questioned.
Speaker A:Lenny Kravitz made a statement, and it was never publicized.
Speaker A:She was unconscious.
Speaker A:She didn't choose to get on that plane.
Speaker A:There were phone calls made.
Speaker A:There were witnesses who signed NDAs.
Speaker A:Why would you need to sign a non disclosure agreement about a plane crash and what happened leading up to it?
Speaker A:Please, someone answer that.
Speaker C:Do you feel like denying.
Speaker A:Why the fuck would you need to sign a Nigga don't ask about a plane crash if it was accidental.
Speaker C:Do you feel like.
Speaker A:Riddle me that.
Speaker A:Riddle me that.
Speaker A:Work with me here in this moment.
Speaker C:And I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker A:A plane crash should be accidental.
Speaker C:Should be.
Speaker A:Why would any testimony about what happened leading up to it need to be covered under a non disclosure agreement if there wasn't foul play?
Speaker C:Now mind you, September 11th happened a week later.
Speaker C:9, 11 happened a week later.
Speaker C:Do you think that took away from it?
Speaker A:Once again, once again there are people who did short sales on their stocks right after that made a lot of fucking money.
Speaker A:Including Sean Carter.
Speaker A:Now I'm going to ask you why would non disclosure agreements need to be signed for an accident?
Speaker A:There were over 25 non disclosure agreements cashed out and recorded regarding the death of that beautiful girl and every other human being that died on that plane with her.
Speaker A:What the fuck?
Speaker A:Oh what would you need a don't ask for that.
Speaker A:And did he hype Williams?
Speaker A:The balls belly was a money pit.
Speaker C:Without a question.
Speaker A:And jay Z got 10 free videos out of Williams and hyped him work for free.
Speaker C:Now translate Hype Williams.
Speaker C:But also you spoke on Just Blaze.
Speaker C:Well, Kanye west is now who Kanye west is.
Speaker C:And Just Blaze is no longer in the picture.
Speaker A:Ain't that some.
Speaker C:Who mechanization?
Speaker C:Is that like who hand?
Speaker A:That was all Sean Carter's dm Because Kanye went to the boule and Justin did not.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:Justin was punished for being the true Hebrew king that he is.
Speaker A:Kanye suffers from buyer's remorse.
Speaker C:You keep giving to him.
Speaker C:You keep giving it to him.
Speaker C:So one thing that we learned in, you know, our.
Speaker A:Just Blaze please.
Speaker C:Yeah please.
Speaker A:I used to love calling his phone.
Speaker A:Cause I liked listening to his voicemail.
Speaker A:Cause he will always have a different beat.
Speaker C:Shout out, shout out.
Speaker A:Just boys on his voicemail.
Speaker A:And I'll never forget when he I called one day and he had the Price is Right theme music on it.
Speaker A:And for whatever reason the way he had it layered out, it made me write a song and then I called him back and I sang it on his voicemail.
Speaker A:I wish we heard a lot more about Justin's music.
Speaker A:Justin was really great.
Speaker A:Takes nothing away from Kanye.
Speaker A:I just think that a world with the both of them working in polarity would have been so much better for the community overall.
Speaker A:Justin and Kanye together so much more.
Speaker C:So let me ask you because someone did ask about you mentioned or let me ask you about Corey Gamble.
Speaker A:What about that?
Speaker C:He was at Kim Porter's death scene.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:And he was also the nigga that took Tory Lanez to Kylie's house to fake shoot Megan thee Stallion.
Speaker A:Corey Gamble inside Justin Bieber's former tour manager.
Speaker A:Which taught Kris Jenner how to be a tour manager so that she could take over the financial responsibility for all of Kanye West's shows and remove Sean G.
Speaker A:You anyway.
Speaker C:Shit.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Corey Gamble has been a plant for a long time.
Speaker A:Everybody knows it.
Speaker C:Okay, okay.
Speaker C:Now, mind you, Jack people in the comments of our last interview, he's probably.
Speaker A:The one that groomed Justin and make him so pliable so that they could pimp him out at all these damn music festivals.
Speaker A:He would be the right guy for the job.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker D:I want to go back to Kanye West.
Speaker A:You can sue me, Corey.
Speaker C:No, folks, give.
Speaker D:Yeah, so Kanye west, they like.
Speaker D:You know, we talk about the Illuminati a lot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Do you think his mom's death was a sacrifice?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker D:You think it's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:Did you check out the doctor I talked about?
Speaker D:Oh, I was just looking him up.
Speaker D:John Adams.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think it's interesting.
Speaker A:Isn't he?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:I hadn't got to look into it.
Speaker A:Who the fuck hired that bitch?
Speaker D:You're right.
Speaker A:That's the doctor you hire when you're trying to rig your insurance plan.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's got an awesome success rate at losing human lives.
Speaker D:For her to even go under this with this doctor is a crazy thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wonder who hired him.
Speaker A:He should have treated Ray J and Brandy.
Speaker C:Oh, oh.
Speaker A:Spared us all a lot of.
Speaker D:I thought Brandy had, like, a real clean name.
Speaker C:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Y'all don't remember that person with her car.
Speaker C:Yeah, we remember.
Speaker A:I don't remember all the lies she did when she was a kid, pretending to be married to that and pretending that he was the father of child when the truth is, she.
Speaker A:She started out Rodney Jerkins and started.
Speaker A:Who she got pregnant by, I would know.
Speaker A:She used to get by that at my little cousin's godmom house where we used to get drunk.
Speaker A:See, nine times out of 10, I probably was there when Brandi conceived her first child.
Speaker A:We was ordered at the house in Ma's Landing.
Speaker A:I was keeping an eye on everybody.
Speaker A:I got paid well to do.
Speaker A:So I know exactly who got Brandi pregnant.
Speaker A:I know exactly when it happened.
Speaker A:You know, it's just funny to me because I know why they hate me, because I really was the worst.
Speaker A:I would have definitely been the, like, top daughter for the Illuminati if I had went that way.
Speaker A:There was nobody more heartless than me, nobody more money minded than me, and nobody more absolute than me.
Speaker A:I was a great pimp because I was a great punisher.
Speaker A:All the pain that I experienced, I know how to reappropriate that.
Speaker A:But see, I.
Speaker A:I chose to go the other way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:So what.
Speaker D:What made you go the other way?
Speaker A:My kids.
Speaker C:People are gonna ask this time and time again, how does she know what she knows what puts you in these rooms to where you've been around all these people, like, sin.
Speaker C:Yeah, I said.
Speaker C:Cause they think, is it music?
Speaker C:Is it what put you in all these rooms?
Speaker A:Sin?
Speaker C:So you was with the shits.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Oh, probably always will be to a certain extent.
Speaker C:And it's funny because when they asked that, of course you did.
Speaker C:The one gotta go.
Speaker C:And you spoke on Gerald Lavert.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And people questioned.
Speaker C:She don't know Gerald Laverte like that.
Speaker C:What she talking about?
Speaker C:And I know Gerald Vert.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I want you to be able to tell him, like, no, like, when you're not.
Speaker A:I met Gerald when I was.
Speaker A:He was my mentor, he is my boss.
Speaker A:Then he became my friend.
Speaker A:And then after I became a grown adult woman, he became my lover.
Speaker A:And from the age of 15 until the day that he died, taught me so much.
Speaker A:When I go back and I think about you, I think about you talking cash money bullshit to me and Scott Storch about the importance of songwriting and getting too caught up in all of the fucking trendy shit when a classic song will sell forever.
Speaker A:I've had a lot of great experiences, a lot of bad experiences.
Speaker A:The funny thing about it is, when I look back now, part of the reason why people have such a hard time believing me was because I wasn't looking for God.
Speaker A:Like, I always hear them say, she wasn't in no pictures there.
Speaker A:I know I avoided them.
Speaker A:I didn't want to be seen on camera with any of these motherfuckers with the kind of shit I was into.
Speaker A:That's a goddamn criminal.
Speaker A:You know, Part of the reason why I can speak the way I can speak is because the statute of limitation is passed on all my crimes.
Speaker A:Crimes.
Speaker A:I never said I didn't commit any crimes.
Speaker A:I said I was smart enough to wait for me to not be held accountable for him.
Speaker A:And you could say I'm a punk for that.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:How do you call a stupid for making sure that they ain't got to serve time for their crimes.
Speaker A:All about.
Speaker A:But at the end of the day, I think the thing that bothers me the most is that I have the amount of talent that I have and I was willing to walk away and sacrifice that opportunity, that high, everybody, that amazing for the Right.
Speaker A:Because the reason why I stopped working in the industry was because I'm not going to help them make another dollar to enslave another human being.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker A:See, I sign a contract with them, I make money with them.
Speaker A:I make money for them.
Speaker A:That money allows them to be able to steal girls from different countries, hold their passports, make them video sluts, turn them into prostitutes, sell them.
Speaker A:And meanwhile, in all of that, the consumers don't ever hold themselves responsible for the fact that every R.
Speaker A:Kelly album he bought, every single, all the merchandise made it possible for him to cover the fact that he was raping Aaliyah.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:There's a time when they walk on stage together and they dressed alike.
Speaker A:They made it possible for him to fucking do what he done to that girl.
Speaker D:Nobody said nothing too like that was.
Speaker A:A fucking goddamn fans.
Speaker A:He was the first successfully corporately funded goddamn pedophile.
Speaker A:And the fans made that possible and they want to sit around and cry.
Speaker A:You said that she did, but you still bought her R.
Speaker A:Kelly record after she died.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker D:Who.
Speaker D:Who's the worst celebrity like, that you been around is like the most full of sin.
Speaker D:I know no sin is greater.
Speaker D:But like, just was like, damn, this.
Speaker A:Clyde Davis, devil incarnate queen slut of the Luciferian creed.
Speaker D:Well, like, why?
Speaker D:I mean, what would explain it?
Speaker A:Like, why?
Speaker A:Because he's a piece queen.
Speaker A:Because he doesn't have a problem with collecting little workers so his new surgeon husband can harvest organs to keep him alive.
Speaker A:Like, he's.
Speaker A:He's the devil.
Speaker A:Clyde Davis, He Janis Joplin, he blackmailed Betty Wright so she wouldn't tell anybody that he, Janis Joplin, he killed Woody Houston.
Speaker C:Jack, Jack.
Speaker C:Can I ask you then, if we seen what happened to R.
Speaker C:Kelly, we seen Bill Cosby, we seen what's happening with Diddy.
Speaker C:I think Aubrey O'Dave from Danity Kane is about to make a documentary with tmz in the documentary.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm sure she's gonna make a documentary and it's gonna to fucking be so heavily redacted that she don't have to tell the truth completely.
Speaker A:She's going to be the new Janice Dickerson.
Speaker C:I was going to ask, who do you think if a documentary was made of will be the most damning if, like, out of people, you know, if they were to make a documentary?
Speaker A:Sidney Poitier.
Speaker C:Oh, whoa, whoa.
Speaker C:What is the Academy Award winning?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:The fuck.
Speaker A:Because the shit that he did for them.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:Just so he could have his career.
Speaker A:Oh, the things that he did to earth a Kid, the lies that he told on ocd.
Speaker A:And Ruby Aussie Davis, Ruby D, the operative There used to be a rumor in Black Hollywood, in Baldwin Hills, that if Sidney Poitier showed up at your party, it's because they were watching you.
Speaker A:And he carried that legacy until his 80s.
Speaker D:Jack, the way you.
Speaker D:You move, it's like.
Speaker D:It's like something real special about you.
Speaker D:It's like the.
Speaker D:It's like money.
Speaker D:Nothing, nothing just really moves you.
Speaker D:You just who you are.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker D:Like, you don't.
Speaker D:You're not compromised by the dollar or anything.
Speaker D:I could just, you know, all money ain't good money.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And more importantly than that, the second that I decided to turn my life into an algorithm, I became the money.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker A:Money don't have to worry about itself.
Speaker D:What I want to ask is like, what does.
Speaker D:Is it something?
Speaker D:So when you get a lot of money, are you like, what are you.
Speaker D:Are you going to become sinful or something like that?
Speaker D:Is that.
Speaker A:This is the thing.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:You should learn who you are, like, who you truly are inside before you get money.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:See, money is nothing more than energy.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:It's energy.
Speaker A:What we do with ourselves and our money is representative of our energy.
Speaker A:You buy season tickets to the Dallas Cowboys every year, but you never buy tickets to the Rangers.
Speaker A:See, your energy is there with the Cowboys.
Speaker A:Money is energy.
Speaker A:See, people look at money like it's something real.
Speaker A:But the truth is, if I go to any money with X and I have access and I can take all of that money out and take it outside and put it in the trash can and set it on fire, you're not gonna get none of that money back.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Wanna know why?
Speaker A:Because money is intangible.
Speaker A:Energy is.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:See, when you got the kind of energy that can influence generations change, algorithms dominate.
Speaker A:Thumbnails.
Speaker A:See, money is going to be generated from that one way or the other.
Speaker A:I always tell people, like my father told me, if you become money, you'll never have to worry about getting money a day in your life.
Speaker A:Teach a man how to fish, he good.
Speaker A:Give a man a fish, he all right.
Speaker A:For now.
Speaker A:Teach a human being how to be able to become money.
Speaker A:Teach a motherfucker how to rely on a paycheck.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:Sidney Poitier asked people to buy into the system.
Speaker A:Sam Cooke said, we need to break the system and create a new one.
Speaker A:Who lived.
Speaker A:Who lived?
Speaker A:Sydney, 48, was in love with Eartha Kitt.
Speaker A:And she wasn't even a dark skinned black woman, but she was a Black woman.
Speaker A:And do you know what he told her?
Speaker A:What the fuck is me being in love with you and walking around Beverly Hills with you going to do for my career?
Speaker A:He turned from a real black woman that loved him because she wouldn't open right doors for him.
Speaker A:On his arm.
Speaker A:Sammy Davis Jr.
Speaker A:After Sam Cooke was murdered, married a white Jewish woman because she opened all the right doors.
Speaker A:Now imagine if rather than warning Sam Cooke about trying to start a black agency for black, rather than warning him, joined up with it.
Speaker A:James Brown was already on board.
Speaker A:Sammy Davis Jr.
Speaker A:Came and asked him to stop.
Speaker A:And four days later, Sam Cooke was dead.
Speaker A:Shot by a prostitute who said he tried to assault her.
Speaker A:When Sam Cooke could sing one note and get a thousand bitches to throw they panties at him, right?
Speaker A:Why the fuck would he need to rape a fucking prostitute when that pussy got nothing but p?
Speaker A:And guess what?
Speaker A:Black America never demanded a better investigation.
Speaker A:Not even now.
Speaker A:Why not?
Speaker A:Why not?
Speaker A:Why not?
Speaker A:We got questions in our faces every day, all day that we don't ask.
Speaker A:Even though I bet you I could ask every last one of you right now.
Speaker A:What's the one question about this life or America that you're really curious about?
Speaker A:Everybody would have something different to say, and every question would be relevant, right?
Speaker D:That's facts.
Speaker A:I want to know, why did my grocery bill go up $150 and I'm buying the same shit?
Speaker D:That's so true.
Speaker A:But ain't nobody asking those questions and ain't nobody offering no answers.
Speaker A:What happens when the price of bread becomes $25 and niggas start killing each other over ham sandwiches?
Speaker D:That's where we going.
Speaker A:That's where we are, right?
Speaker A:There we are, baby.
Speaker C:All right, so, Jack, real quick as we head out, people have asked, what is JAG doing next?
Speaker C:Where can I watch her podcast?
Speaker C:She has an amazing voice.
Speaker C:Where can I watch her sing?
Speaker A:V E U I T.
Speaker A:V U, E I T V E U or V I T?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Something like that.com viewer and this is.
Speaker A:Where the home of the new Dalladelphia Broadcasting Network and so many other great new rogue broadcasters are going to be coming there.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker A:You know, it's a decentralized network.
Speaker A:It's on blockchain where the server is not in the United States.
Speaker C:So you can do.
Speaker C:You can pop your.
Speaker A:You can pop your shit and actually get paid without being pimped by the platform technology, right?
Speaker A:That shadow bans you.
Speaker D:So I have to ask Jaguar because I'm glad you're on this other side now, and you're turning and the new leaf and everything, but I wanna know, what's the worst thing you did with your money and what's the best thing you did with your money?
Speaker A:The worst thing I did with my money was give my mother money so that she could secretly fund my sister's drug career.
Speaker A:And nobody.
Speaker A:It helped nobody.
Speaker A:Best thing I ever did with my money.
Speaker A: I sold my: Speaker A:Custom.
Speaker C:Oh, 64.
Speaker A:To buy my.
Speaker A:My God brother, Kenyan.
Speaker A:His birthday just passed April 1.
Speaker A:He was born on April.
Speaker A:Like, I sold my car.
Speaker A:He needed a heart.
Speaker A:I sold my dream car and I got him number two on the spot.
Speaker A:He was the next guy in line.
Speaker A:And he died a week and a half before he got his heart.
Speaker A:And then I had to donate it.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:And lastly, Jack, they.
Speaker A:They used to send me letters and thank me every year.
Speaker A:And I would tell them, how about you get me my 64 GTO back?
Speaker A:Oh, stop calling me.
Speaker C:And, Jack, I have to say this because in the last interview, even in what we did on one Gotta Go, you know, you sung Prince.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And the words, it still resonates with me to the day, to this moment.
Speaker C:It's almost eerie when you sing something like, maybe I'm just like my mother.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:She's never satisfied.
Speaker C:And what you spoke on the last interview of what you want when we asked you about your mother and, you know, ain't that interesting.
Speaker A:I said what I said and then what happened, happened exactly like I said it would happen.
Speaker A:I don't understand why people don't understand.
Speaker A:Everything I say happens.
Speaker C:So with that being said, you know, our condolences, first and foremost.
Speaker C:And we ain't gotta.
Speaker A:She good.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:We don't gotta go in too far into that.
Speaker A:I'm grateful that my mom's not here for people to keep taking advantage of.
Speaker A:Truth is, she wasn't the kind of person that was prepared to have a famous child.
Speaker A:She came from humble beginnings.
Speaker A:My father put her on, and then she had a daughter who grew up to be Jaguar Wright.
Speaker A:She was never prepared on how to protect herself from people who tried to take advantage of her to get to me.
Speaker A:She wasn't prepared for that.
Speaker A:And no matter what I did, I couldn't protect her from her.
Speaker A:My mother had a big heart.
Speaker A:Even if you proved to her that somebody was taking advantage of her, she would still just rock with it because she felt sorry for you.
Speaker A:You know, she used to say to me all the time, I would say, mommy, you gotta stop wasting your blessings.
Speaker A:And she said I came from nothing, I'mma go back to nothing.
Speaker A:And my guy gave me a famous daughter and I'mma help everybody I can.
Speaker A:Fuck you say to that?
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker C:Yeah, man.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker A:So as much as I want to regret, I know what a goal was.
Speaker A:And if her mooching off of my gave her the ability to bring God to people in whatever weird way she did it, it worked.
Speaker A:Because what I do know is there's a lot of motherfuckers that would be on the street right now if it were wasn't for my mom hustling me out of my money to help.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:And half of those is a talk about me because I cut off the F so they could no longer use my mother.
Speaker A:And then the next thing you know, once they realized they couldn't get no more money, they just started doing interviews with weird bitches named Tasha K.
Speaker A:Whose children playing monkey shit getting ready for their new mammy.
Speaker A:Hey, fuck you.
Speaker A:Me.
Speaker C:Let's go.
Speaker A:Anything else?
Speaker C:Well, Jack, no.
Speaker C:May 17, it's a birthday coming.
Speaker C:And hey, Orlando Brown said he'll be there.
Speaker A:I'm 47 years old and I'm a party like I'm 25 and I'm going to be the first person up making eggs in the morning.
Speaker A:And that's just how that goes.
Speaker B:Shout out reality street stars, nigga.
Speaker B:Hey.
