Episode 541

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Published on:

4th Mar 2025

Bella Barcode: The Mastermind Behind a Multi-Million Dollar Diamond Scheme!

The principal theme of this podcast episode revolves around the multifaceted and often tumultuous life of Bella Barcode, a woman who has traversed the complex landscapes of hustling, personal challenges, and resilience. We delve into her journey, beginning with her upbringing in Oakland, where she was shaped by her environment and familial influences that instilled in her a tenacity to survive and thrive. Bella recounts her entrance into the world of scamming and the diamond game, revealing the intricacies and risks associated with such a lifestyle, as well as the consequences that ultimately led to her incarceration. Through candid reflections, we explore her experiences in prison, the lessons learned, and her subsequent transformation upon release, culminating in her decision to share her story through a book titled "Recidivism: Beauty Before Bars." This episode offers listeners an unfiltered glimpse into Bella’s life, emphasizing the importance of resilience, accountability, and the quest for redemption in the face of adversity.

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Transcript
Speaker A:

Real life.

Speaker A:

It ain't real life.

Speaker A:

Real life street stall.

Speaker A:

You know what time it is?

Speaker A:

1 real life street stars, man.

Speaker A:

We in here with Bella Barcode back for the first time.

Speaker A:

They'll never see the file.

Speaker A:

Bella, you have a interesting story.

Speaker A:

You know, I like hustlers.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I seen your interview on Trap Anonymous, and your story's crazy.

Speaker A:

You know, we have an Arthur in the building.

Speaker B:

An Arthur.

Speaker A:

We have a diamond expert in the building.

Speaker A:

We have a scam expert in the building.

Speaker A:

We're gonna go take them all the way through there.

Speaker A:

But for those who don't know who's sitting on the couch, just give them a brief history of who Bella Barcote is.

Speaker B:

Bella Barcode is first off, a mother, a fitness guru, a licensed appraiser, an author, and most important, a strong woman of God.

Speaker B:

That's who Bella Barricote is.

Speaker A:

That's hard.

Speaker A:

Now, you know, for those who haven't seen the Trap Anonymous interview that you've done, right, one of the big things that stands out is the headline.

Speaker A:

You know, basically you were able to create a system called the quote unquote approval game, which were you able to kind of.

Speaker A:

Would you say scam?

Speaker A:

What would you call it?

Speaker B:

Scam.

Speaker B:

Finesse.

Speaker A:

Scam.

Speaker A:

Finesse for diamonds.

Speaker B:

Diamonds, Cash advances.

Speaker A:

Right, And I want to get into that.

Speaker A:

But before we want to take it back to your upbringing real quick, one of the things that you said is you grew up in Oakland.

Speaker A:

Now everybody knows Oakland.

Speaker A:

You know, we got too short.

Speaker A:

E40.

Speaker A:

What is when you think of Oakland, what do you think of When I.

Speaker B:

Think of Oakland, I think of the Black Panthers.

Speaker B:

Huey Newton.

Speaker B:

Yeah, my dad used to run with Huey Newton.

Speaker B:

So that's what I think of when I think of Oakland.

Speaker B:

I think of the Black Panthers.

Speaker A:

What were some of the things when you did research, what were some of the things that you found out about them that you were like, eye opening for you?

Speaker B:

They were strong.

Speaker B:

They was black men who didn't bow down.

Speaker B:

They stood strong in they culture and what they believe in, and they stood their grounds.

Speaker A:

What were some of the principles that your pops kind of taught you growing up?

Speaker A:

Cause I would think a man with that type of foundation would pass that down to their kid, give him some game, just show them a different way.

Speaker A:

What were some of the things that you kind of inherited from him?

Speaker B:

So my father passed away when I was 11.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I was, like, fair.

Speaker B:

I was fairly young, but I seen how strong I was.

Speaker B:

I mean, how strong he was and how family oriented.

Speaker B:

He was.

Speaker B:

He didn't play about his children.

Speaker B:

Cause it was a lot of us, you know, that thing.

Speaker B:

Papa was a role so strength, you know, just standing your grounds, not bowing down to know, not bow down to nobody.

Speaker A:

Right, Right.

Speaker B:

Strong is an understatement.

Speaker A:

What were some of the best memories you had of your pops?

Speaker B:

I was a daddy's girl.

Speaker B:

I always.

Speaker B:

He always would come pick me up in his Cadillac, you know.

Speaker B:

You know what they say about men who drive him?

Speaker A:

What'd they say?

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

They say that men who drive Cadillacs is, you know, they got status.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

You know, pimp status, cat daddy, all that.

Speaker B:

But yeah, my.

Speaker B:

My father gave me strength at such a young age that I still vow to this day.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Now, now, during the interview, one thing that also stood out was you almost painted your mom as.

Speaker A:

She was a little negligent as a youngin.

Speaker A:

You said you taught yourself how to.

Speaker B:

Walk, so I wouldn't say negligent.

Speaker B:

My mom was a good mother.

Speaker B:

I mean, she.

Speaker B:

She was a functional addict.

Speaker B:

And you know, we never went without.

Speaker B:

There was always food on the table.

Speaker B:

My father, you know, my father was there to help her.

Speaker B:

But at such a young age, my mom was introduced to crack cocaine from her mother.

Speaker B:

She used to make plays for her mom and take people prescription drugs.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

And that's how she got introduced to crack cocaine.

Speaker A:

Man, I feel like I've watched so many documentaries on la, Oakland, the crack epidemic.

Speaker A:

It feels like that particular scene got hit so much harder than a lot of other scenes, you know, as a kid.

Speaker A:

What did it look like from your vantage point just seeing that play out?

Speaker B:

So I grew up in Acorn Projects.

Speaker B:

The Acorn Projects was real rough shootings, killings on a daily.

Speaker B:

You know, my grandmother was a drug dealer.

Speaker B:

She was a queen pen.

Speaker B:

iption drugs and crack out of:

Speaker A:

So she was the candy lady and the plug.

Speaker B:

And a plug.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so I see it, I seen it.

Speaker B:

Grew up at such an early age, seeing all that transpire right in front of my eyes.

Speaker B:

Not.

Speaker B:

You know, when you grow up, you think you run up in a white picket fence house, right?

Speaker B:

No, I grew up in Acorn Projects.

Speaker A:

You know, a lot of kids that have like parents that are in the game, they become real street smart and hustlers super early.

Speaker A:

Like, did that happen to you?

Speaker A:

Did you ever feel like you had to move a pack or do something according to the streets early?

Speaker A:

Or did you just walk the straight and narrow?

Speaker B:

That's what I was.

Speaker B:

I was around my whole life.

Speaker B:

Hustlers and street smart individuals.

Speaker B:

Only thing I knew was survival, how to stay strong, never depend on a man.

Speaker B:

My mom instilled that to me, instilled that in me at such a young early age, to never depend on a man.

Speaker B:

So that's all I knew, is to be strong, to stand my ground, and to survive in the ghetto.

Speaker A:

So how did you survive in the ghetto?

Speaker A:

Like, you know, we're talking.

Speaker A:

How long were you there in the Acorn Projects?

Speaker A:

How long were you there?

Speaker B:

Not just the Acorn project, just West Oakland.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Very dangerous.

Speaker B:

All my life.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Very dangerous.

Speaker B:

Ghost town.

Speaker B:

What is it?

Speaker B:

Camel Village.

Speaker B:

We stayed on Camel Village first, and then we moved into the ACORN Projects.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So, you know, you grow up now we're going to get into this approval game, right, that you speak about.

Speaker A:

What is the quote, unquote approval game and how did you get put onto it?

Speaker A:

And I want you to go into a little bit of detail for those because, you know, there's an interview out there.

Speaker A:

Again, shout out to Trap Anonymous.

Speaker A:

But I want you.

Speaker B:

I wanna shout out to Chris.

Speaker A:

Shout out to Chris.

Speaker A:

We gonna dig deep in there.

Speaker A:

Tell me, how did you get started on the scamming?

Speaker B:

I was introduced to the game by og.

Speaker B:

I call her Quetha.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but I was introduced by her and, you know, she.

Speaker B:

I was introduced to the game by her, but she was different.

Speaker B:

She was.

Speaker B:

When I tell you that, I used to be like, how does she do this?

Speaker B:

Like, right, how did she get these tellers to give up this cash?

Speaker B:

Like, what is she telling them over the phone to give up this cash?

Speaker B:

So they used to call.

Speaker B:

She used to call me the Bold and the Beautiful.

Speaker B:

Like, I used to hop out as soon as we pull up at a bank.

Speaker B:

I was hopping out first.

Speaker B:

She had a crew.

Speaker B:

So this one particular time we pulled up and it was another individual when she came and got me, right?

Speaker B:

I let her get out first.

Speaker B:

So she got out first.

Speaker B:

You know, we in a car.

Speaker B:

The young lady called.

Speaker B:

She's saying whatever she had to say to the teller, which was, you know, thank you for calling Visa Emergency Services.

Speaker B:

This is Sarah.

Speaker B:

Can I get your account number, expiration date, name as it appears exactly on the card and amount of purchase?

Speaker B:

The young lady tell her, well, I'm in a.

Speaker B:

In a Bank of America and I'm doing a cash advance for 8,500 and my card is declining.

Speaker B:

So Quetha tell her, let me place you on hold while I verify funds in your account.

Speaker B:

First, she asked her for her for security purposes.

Speaker B:

She asked her for a code like the last four of her social to give her the last four of her social.

Speaker B:

She said, hold on.

Speaker B:

And why verify funds in her account?

Speaker B:

She gets back on the phone.

Speaker B:

She brief, second.

Speaker B:

She phoned, brief, hold, gets back on the phone.

Speaker B:

I am showing that funds are available in your account.

Speaker B:

I do have to speak with a teller to verify some security concerns on your account.

Speaker B:

So the teller gets on the phone.

Speaker B:

She's like, hi, this is Sarah with Visa Merchant Services.

Speaker B:

Can I get your Visa merchant ID number?

Speaker B:

The teller give her her Visa merchant ID number.

Speaker B:

She tell her, you know, for security purposes.

Speaker B:

Does the customer on that ID matches the customer that's standing in front of you?

Speaker B:

The teller say yes, for security purposes because you have Ms.

Speaker B:

So and so verified the last four digits of her social.

Speaker B:

She verified the last four digit of her social.

Speaker B:

The teller, you know, asked her, well, she's trying to get a cash advance off her visa for 8,500, and her card declined.

Speaker B:

Kwetha, put the teller on hold, get back on her phone.

Speaker B:

Put the teller on hold for a brief second.

Speaker B:

Get back on the phone.

Speaker B:

I am showing that funds are available in Ms.

Speaker B:

So and so's account.

Speaker B:

I'm going to go ahead and give you a voice authorization code.

Speaker B:

Do you have a pen and paper handy?

Speaker B:

The teller says, yes, I have a pen and paper handy.

Speaker B:

And if the teller needs assistance with that transaction, Kwetha asks her, which terminal does she have?

Speaker B:

So she have a FD150, a Verifone 250.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

She assists her with the transaction.

Speaker B:

Give her all the steps.

Speaker B:

Ma'am, you're gonna have to enter in the credit card number in manually along with the expiration date, along with the CVC code.

Speaker B:

CVV code, along with the authorization code.

Speaker B:

And the receipt should pop right up.

Speaker B:

If, depending on which terminal she had, it's either a manual transaction or a forced sale transaction or offline transaction, and the receipt pop up.

Speaker B:

So I was introduced to the game by her.

Speaker B:

And after the banks got hot, I got introduced.

Speaker B:

I introduced myself to the diamond game.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

And I just skyrocketed after that.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker A:

So let me ask you this.

Speaker A:

So this was.

Speaker A:

What was the first time?

Speaker A:

Like, what year would you say?

Speaker A:

How old were you when you were.

Speaker B:

Did your first one?

Speaker A:

Okay, so 18.

Speaker A:

First shot of thing.

Speaker A:

So when you do this and you get away with it, is the feeling like, oh, I got this.

Speaker A:

We can run it up now.

Speaker A:

Or was it like, oh, I'm gonna just do this for a little bit and get out the game.

Speaker B:

It was, I'm gonna do this for a little bit and get out the game.

Speaker B:

But a course in an end like that got you.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker A:

So how long would you say that you were.

Speaker A:

You were doing this before you got to the Diamonds?

Speaker B:

I would say two.

Speaker B:

Two years got you.

Speaker A:

Two year Runway.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker A:

And then two years go by and then what was, what made you say, man, let's try to run this up?

Speaker B:

Because I'm like, to myself, I'm like, I'm real smart, street smart, book smart.

Speaker B:

You can't pull a wool over my head.

Speaker B:

But anyway, to go back to your question, I'm saying to myself, like, if this can go on, because we were going inside stores too, like Louis Vuitton, Tiffany, Gucci, all high end stores.

Speaker B:

We was doing the same thing.

Speaker B:

So I'm saying, if this can go in shopping and in the banks, we can go inside the jewelry store and do it right.

Speaker B:

So our first run was me and my little play sister, we took a run to New York, to Jacob.

Speaker A:

And Jacob was the top at the time, huh?

Speaker B:

Jacob was him and Aveanni was the top at the time, right?

Speaker B:

And we went in there and my place, she was like, I want this watch, I want that watch.

Speaker B:

And that was.

Speaker B:

Was on from there, that one run to New York, and that was it.

Speaker B:

That was it.

Speaker A:

Golly.

Speaker A:

So you come back with the Jacob watches now in the hood, you come back with some nice ice.

Speaker A:

What's everybody saying?

Speaker A:

They like, damn, Bella, what's going on?

Speaker A:

What is everybody saying when you popping out with the Jacob watches?

Speaker B:

They couldn't figure it out.

Speaker B:

I mean, of course, you know, Oakland is not.

Speaker B:

But so it's not small, but it's not.

Speaker B:

It's like, what, Vallejo, Frisco, what?

Speaker B:

Sacramento, San Leandro.

Speaker B:

So every, like, it's a lot of talk.

Speaker B:

Like, it was only a couple of us that was in the game, right?

Speaker B:

It was the head girl who was in the game.

Speaker B:

She was the head honcho.

Speaker B:

She the one who talked Queta, right?

Speaker B:

And from Queta, it was me.

Speaker B:

And it was a couple of other people that was under the man girl.

Speaker B:

But yeah, so the talk was, man, them girls getting money, like, it was a lot of talk.

Speaker B:

East Oakland, West Oakland, Berkeley.

Speaker B:

It was a lot of talk.

Speaker A:

Going crazy.

Speaker B:

Going crazy.

Speaker A:

Now I gotta ask you, because, you know, last time you were here, you were saying you could damn near eyeball.

Speaker A:

You're like damn near a gemologist when it comes to, you know, diamonds.

Speaker A:

So we gonna detour for a quick second, okay?

Speaker A:

And I wanna ask you about these.

Speaker A:

What's the quarterback of Philadelphia?

Speaker A:

He pulled out his piece, right?

Speaker A:

And it went viral.

Speaker A:

And everybody was saying, damn, these rappers pieces ain't hitting like this.

Speaker A:

What percentage would you say are artists like wearing real diamonds versus fake diamonds?

Speaker B:

I would say 70%.

Speaker A:

70% fake.

Speaker A:

Now would you say that it's the rappers going there purposely getting the fake.

Speaker A:

Or the jewelers are finessing them?

Speaker B:

See, I don't know.

Speaker B:

Because you see, baby, Lil baby got.

Speaker B:

That was crazy.

Speaker A:

That was crazy.

Speaker B:

That was crazy.

Speaker A:

That's $4 million watch.

Speaker B:

That's why I'm telling you.

Speaker B:

Gotta deal with the best fezzi in Atlanta.

Speaker B:

That nigga dying so crazy.

Speaker B:

What.

Speaker A:

What make the diamonds crazy in your opinion?

Speaker A:

Cause like you said, like, everybody's diamonds ain't everybody.

Speaker B:

Diamonds ain't the same.

Speaker B:

So you gotta do the C's.

Speaker B:

You got the clarity, the cut, the color.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

If you ain't got the clarity of cutting the color.

Speaker B:

If you ain't got VVS.

Speaker B:

VSIF.

Speaker B:

I mean FI.

Speaker B:

F2.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you.

Speaker B:

If you ain't got the G, the H, the E.

Speaker B:

Like you gotta know the baby, you gotta stop.

Speaker A:

No, no.

Speaker A:

So give me.

Speaker A:

I want you to give me like top.

Speaker A:

The top three diamonds you can get.

Speaker A:

Like what's the price on it?

Speaker A:

Just give me a rough estimate.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So now you know, I.

Speaker B:

I ain't shopped a long time for diamonds.

Speaker B:

But I was.

Speaker B:

Matter of fact, I was just in Fezzi.

Speaker B:

And I was looking at a.

Speaker B:

A Cuban link.

Speaker B:

And the diamonds was VVS1 and it was G in color.

Speaker B:

He quoted me 56,000 for that Cuban link.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker A:

Just for the link?

Speaker B:

Just for the link.

Speaker A:

No piece, nothing.

Speaker B:

No piece, no nothing.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but his diamond's crazy.

Speaker A:

Crazy.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Crazy, crazy.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't shop nowhere but Fezzi, right?

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker A:

So let me ask you this.

Speaker A:

Like, they got what?

Speaker A:

Johnny Dame Icebox.

Speaker A:

Who's the other Manhattan?

Speaker A:

The jeweler in New York that everybody talk about?

Speaker B:

Aviani.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Eliante.

Speaker B:

Eliante.

Speaker B:

Benny.

Speaker A:

Benny.

Speaker A:

So you're saying out of all of those, the person you name is Kevin.

Speaker B:

That's my jeweler.

Speaker B:

Fezzi.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't deal with nobody but Fezzi.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker A:

Got you off of the line.

Speaker A:

But if.

Speaker A:

Let's say.

Speaker A:

Let's just name the top three jewelers in your opinion.

Speaker A:

Like if you were to just.

Speaker A:

If you just came up on a lump sum.

Speaker B:

You trying to give me some backlash now?

Speaker A:

No, no.

Speaker A:

I'M just saying for people like.

Speaker A:

Cause, you know, artists really be wanting to get the best jeweler.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So like, when you look at the game and you say, oh, no, that.

Speaker B:

His jeweler fucking around, I would say Fezzi is one.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

We already got him as one.

Speaker B:

Eliante.

Speaker A:

Eliante.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And Benny got you.

Speaker A:

Gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker A:

So this is the part that is confusing to me, right.

Speaker A:

If I'm a jeweler and you're a jeweler, right.

Speaker A:

And you just said it's vvs if all that.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And we're getting the same diamonds, how is mine shining harder than yours?

Speaker A:

If we're getting the same clarity cuts, how does it happen?

Speaker B:

That's where the finesse come in at.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker B:

Your guess is as good as mine.

Speaker B:

I would assume that some people getting diamonds from Dubai because they say Dubai got the best diamonds.

Speaker B:

I don't know how true that is, but they say Dubai has the best diamond, has the best stones, like literally the purest stones out there.

Speaker B:

My lashes keep coming down.

Speaker B:

I don't have no lashes.

Speaker B:

But they saying.

Speaker B:

They saying they had the best stones, but I don't know how true that is.

Speaker B:

But yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker A:

So back to the diamond game, right?

Speaker A:

So you do this the first time.

Speaker A:

How long after that were you able to run this game up before things come crumbling down?

Speaker A:

Like, how long were you able to.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna say I had a two and a half year run.

Speaker A:

A two and a half year run.

Speaker A:

Getting jewelry.

Speaker B:

Getting jewelry.

Speaker B:

I was traveling.

Speaker B:

I was.

Speaker B:

I literally pick a state on the map who has a diamond district and go to that state.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

From Chicago to New York, from New York to Detroit.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

From Detroit to Miami.

Speaker B:

Whoever had a diamond district, I was gone.

Speaker B:

And from me going so much, I start studying diamonds.

Speaker B:

Like, you know, when I go in the store, the.

Speaker B:

The sales associates ask me.

Speaker B:

He like, are you a gemologist?

Speaker B:

I'm like, no, I just know the art of diamonds.

Speaker B:

I go in there and ask for a magnifying glass.

Speaker B:

Let me see your magnifying glass.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

I want to see if there's any inclusions in these diamonds.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

So when you go in there, that's anywhere.

Speaker B:

Even if you go inside the candy store, you go in there, you know what you're talking about.

Speaker B:

They're not gonna second guess you.

Speaker B:

And then your aura, you know, it speaks volume.

Speaker B:

You walk in there with confidence, like you know what you want.

Speaker B:

It wasn't.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Well, how much is this?

Speaker B:

It was.

Speaker B:

I'm looking for oyster perpetual day Date presidential.

Speaker B:

His and hers.

Speaker A:

Now, do you.

Speaker A:

Now, I'm gonna ask you this, right, because you walk in as a woman, right?

Speaker A:

A beautiful woman.

Speaker A:

Do you feel like it was easier for you, or do you think a man could replicate the same action back in that same time frame?

Speaker B:

No, it was easier for a woman to do it.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

And why do you think that?

Speaker A:

Is it just because nobody was suspected right after that?

Speaker B:

Nobody was suspected.

Speaker B:

I mean, you have to go in there with confidence, speaking knowledge, as far as what you want.

Speaker B:

You can't go in there.

Speaker B:

Don't get me wrong, I was nervous.

Speaker B:

Times when I used to go in a candy store, I was extremely nervous.

Speaker B:

But I didn't let that stop me.

Speaker B:

I still went in there and I need a cash advance off my visa for 8,500 and wasn't turning it around until I got it.

Speaker B:

The object of the game is to get to the phone.

Speaker B:

Once you get to the phone, it's golden, man.

Speaker A:

Now, you did end up making the Boston Globe, right?

Speaker A:

And they end up actually saying, I'm not gonna say your name, but they did name another person in there.

Speaker A:

And they said, y'all use prepaid credit cards in May to steal from two jewelry stores as well as other stores in Newburgh Street.

Speaker A:

And then basically that, you know, that's how y'all got caught, basically.

Speaker A:

Can you detail when it all came crashing down, right?

Speaker A:

Cause you have an interesting story on how you even got caught.

Speaker A:

Because my question was, you're going from jewelry store to jewelry store at some point.

Speaker A:

Does the feds not catch on to you?

Speaker A:

Does nobody catch on to that game?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

If you're able to hit licks like this, at some point somebody gotta be like, hey, we're missing some money.

Speaker A:

We're getting a charge back.

Speaker A:

We're doing something like, nobody.

Speaker B:

So they had a.

Speaker B:

You know how all states have an officer like, you better be careful about, right?

Speaker B:

Don't run into.

Speaker B:

I can't remember this officer name, but when I tell you, like, he was known in the Bay Area.

Speaker B:

What is this officer name?

Speaker B:

John.

Speaker B:

John.

Speaker B:

I can't remember this officer's name, but.

Speaker B:

T.

Speaker B:

Jones.

Speaker B:

T.

Speaker B:

Jones.

Speaker B:

That was his name, baby.

Speaker B:

You better stay clear.

Speaker B:

T.

Speaker B:

Jones, like, he was that officer.

Speaker B:

He knew everything that was going on in the hood, but he couldn't.

Speaker B:

They couldn't.

Speaker B:

They didn't.

Speaker B:

They couldn't understand.

Speaker B:

Like, how was the transaction change?

Speaker B:

How was the transactions transpiring?

Speaker B:

Like, how.

Speaker B:

How was they getting this money, right?

Speaker B:

How.

Speaker B:

Like, how is they going in here and Getting this money off of a prepaid card, a card that don't work.

Speaker B:

But you going in here and you getting this money, they couldn't understand this.

Speaker B:

So when we going inside the candy store, you know, we got the.

Speaker B:

We have our, our car, our credit card, and you know, his eyes are the sky.

Speaker B:

We already Remembering, rememberizing the 1, 800 number that is going to the co conspirator.

Speaker B:

So we looking down at the card, you know, it's eyes in the skies again, we looking down at the car, but we already dialing the 1-800 number.

Speaker B:

So they probably thinking it on the cameras.

Speaker B:

Well, they dialed the 1-800 number.

Speaker B:

Like, what's going on?

Speaker B:

Like, right.

Speaker B:

They calling the number on the back of the credit card.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And the lady on the phone is asking for our Visa merchant number.

Speaker B:

The this all sounds sufficient, right?

Speaker B:

d and give this nice lady her:

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I just.

Speaker B:

I can't even.

Speaker B:

When I even look back and think about it, I be thinking like, you gotta have some strong balls to go inside of bank after bank after bank asking for this amount of money at such a young age.

Speaker B:

You have to have confidence.

Speaker B:

You have to go in there and know that this is your money and you coming out with your money.

Speaker B:

I never got turned down.

Speaker A:

You know what's so crazy?

Speaker A:

I used to work at Fry's Electronics, right?

Speaker A:

And they actually used to let the people who still get away the first time and then they would put their face on the wall and offer a bounty.

Speaker A:

Because their whole thing was when you steal and get away with it, you get this level of confidence that you're gonna be able to again.

Speaker A:

Was that what you feel like?

Speaker A:

What it was?

Speaker A:

Because you know, at some point, it's not even a thought in your mind that it's dangerous.

Speaker A:

It's like, oh, this is easy work.

Speaker A:

This is light work.

Speaker A:

We finna go in here and get these watches.

Speaker B:

It was greed.

Speaker B:

I didn't think I was gonna ever get caught.

Speaker B:

Honestly, I really didn't think I would've ever got caught.

Speaker A:

And you may never have if it didn't come to this circumstance about this U turn.

Speaker A:

Tell em about the U turn.

Speaker B:

If it didn't come to the circumstances.

Speaker B:

I was, we was on our way to meet a client.

Speaker B:

It was my first time dealing with this client.

Speaker B:

And being that it was my first time dealing with this certain particular client, I wanted to have all the receipts and Everything to show him that I wasn't trying to finesse him.

Speaker B:

I wasn't trying to get over on him.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Cause he had put in an order for a 2 carat single stone, single diamonds.

Speaker B:

I wasn't just.

Speaker B:

I wasn't getting the diamonds in a ring that was already.

Speaker B:

That was already, you know.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I was getting single diamonds.

Speaker B:

So he had wanted a 2 carat single diamond for his wife for.

Speaker B:

I guess he was gonna put it in a ring.

Speaker B:

But anyways, so we were on our way to Lake Merritt to meet him, leaving from East Oakland.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

And we had drove by the bar station.

Speaker B:

The bar station is like Metro.

Speaker B:

Like it's something that.

Speaker B:

It's like, you know, a rail, a train that goes to one side to, you know, to Oakland to be.

Speaker B:

Or whatever.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So we had.

Speaker B:

Was on our way there and I made a legal U turn and the sheriff pulled me over.

Speaker B:

And when he pulled me over, he asked for my driver's license and my insurance.

Speaker B:

I gave him my driver's license and my insurance.

Speaker B:

I already knew me and my play sister who used to go with me everywhere, she was in the car with me.

Speaker B:

I already knew it was over because I was on probation for an incident that occurred where one of my workers had one inside of a candy store.

Speaker B:

And they had.

Speaker B:

The teller had called the 1, 800 number back.

Speaker B:

The teller let the young lady get away with the money, but she still felt a suspicion on my worker and she called the 1, 800 number back.

Speaker B:

So they had ended up giving me probation for that.

Speaker B:

So I had a three way search clause.

Speaker B:

So he gets my license and registration.

Speaker B:

He comes back to the car, he says, Ms.

Speaker B:

So and so we see that you have a three way search call.

Speaker B:

So we're gonna have to search the car, search the vehicle.

Speaker B:

Everything was in the car.

Speaker B:

I end up giving the stones to my play sister and the receipts to her.

Speaker B:

And that didn't help.

Speaker B:

They searched her too.

Speaker B:

Took everything.

Speaker B:

They ended up calling the.

Speaker B:

They end up calling Boston while we was still there.

Speaker B:

While they were still searching the car.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

The sheriff.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So y'all get arrested, right?

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker B:

Well, away from Boston.

Speaker B:

Let's clarify that.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

So you get arrested, Right.

Speaker A:

What's the process now?

Speaker A:

Like, you get locked up.

Speaker A:

You know, when these type of things go down, you know, there's always a.

Speaker A:

When somebody got a gun in the car and.

Speaker A:

And I don't claim it and you don't claim it.

Speaker A:

It's like one of those type of things.

Speaker A:

So what happened in your case, like with you and the friend that was in the car, did she end up telling on you or what was the situation?

Speaker B:

So not at that very moment.

Speaker B:

She ended up telling on you.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker B:

Nothing happened.

Speaker B:

We was both, you know what you're getting yourself into, you know, at one point in your life that this is not gonna always be peaches and cream, right?

Speaker B:

She was young when I met her.

Speaker B:

She was a stripper when I first met her.

Speaker B:

So she looked up to me.

Speaker B:

I was like a big sister to her.

Speaker B:

But she was, like, my distraction.

Speaker B:

Like, she was a pretty girl.

Speaker B:

Like, bad.

Speaker B:

She's still pretty to this day.

Speaker B:

Like, she was big butt, little waist.

Speaker B:

She was really, like, my distraction.

Speaker B:

I was trying to figure out what can I use her for.

Speaker B:

Like, I didn't want her going inside.

Speaker B:

She wasn't smart when it came to.

Speaker B:

Like, nobody was smart when it came to them diamonds.

Speaker B:

And I'm not boasting.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying, like, you know, I take full responsibility for my actions.

Speaker B:

Like, I wouldn't.

Speaker B:

All young girls, please don't try this at home, please.

Speaker B:

Seriously.

Speaker B:

Or anybody in the game, please stop.

Speaker B:

But anyways, like I was saying, she.

Speaker B:

Nobody took accountability for it.

Speaker B:

We went down, got booked into North County Jail.

Speaker B:

They end up contacting Boston.

Speaker B:

Boston had 30 to 60 days, I wanna say, to extradited back.

Speaker B:

We waited for it to get extradited back.

Speaker B:

We ended up getting extradited back.

Speaker B:

She got extradited first, but she was still dry, like, the whole time.

Speaker B:

Like, with me, she was very dry.

Speaker B:

So we ended up getting back to Boston.

Speaker B:

Her bail was $10,000 cash.

Speaker B:

Mine was $20,000 cash.

Speaker B:

I think mine's was so high because I had.

Speaker B:

I was on probation in California.

Speaker B:

And in Boston, you don't do the 10%, they want you to walk your money over to the Magister and pay the whole thing.

Speaker B:

And pay the whole thing.

Speaker B:

Wasn't no 10%, baby, you better have cash.

Speaker A:

But this is just for bail, though, right?

Speaker B:

This is just for bail.

Speaker B:

Boston is commonwealth, by the way.

Speaker B:

So her bail was 10,000 cash, and mine was 20,000 cash.

Speaker A:

Right, but that should be light work, though, right?

Speaker A:

Cause y'all moving.

Speaker A:

How much was y'all making?

Speaker A:

Y'all getting?

Speaker A:

Jacob watching this.

Speaker B:

That was light work.

Speaker B:

Light work that I didn't have at the time.

Speaker A:

Running through the money, huh?

Speaker B:

Running through the money, taking care of everybody.

Speaker B:

Like, just being a free spirit, Bella, like I.

Speaker B:

Like I used to be.

Speaker A:

How much was you blowing through?

Speaker A:

A week, would you say?

Speaker B:

A week I was going through, like, at least about 56,000 a week.

Speaker B:

I had a.

Speaker B:

I had a.

Speaker B:

I had a handbag problem.

Speaker B:

I love me a handbag.

Speaker B:

I love me a handbag.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, sometimes we couldn't.

Speaker B:

Sometimes it wasn't.

Speaker B:

The stores wasn't cool for us to do APs in the stores.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

We had to pay for our items.

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

That's correct.

Speaker B:

Couldn't get everything free.

Speaker A:

What would you say is the biggest purchase you made during that time when you just had all the bread?

Speaker B:

My Laundromat.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So you did that.

Speaker A:

Well, that's what's up.

Speaker A:

So you did.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I did invest.

Speaker A:

Invest in something.

Speaker B:

And then my kid's father, his detail shop.

Speaker A:

Oh, we tricking on him.

Speaker B:

It ain't tricking if you had it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, put us on in.

Speaker A:

Put us on in.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

Got the laundry.

Speaker A:

Get your clothes clean and get your shit washed up.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

That's what's up.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

So that's interesting.

Speaker A:

So you say you're.

Speaker A:

Man.

Speaker A:

So when you go in, what are the expectations for the man?

Speaker A:

Did you have expectations?

Speaker A:

Were y'all together?

Speaker A:

Like, what is the situation when you get locked up and now you're facing time and you have.

Speaker B:

So he was in jail at that time.

Speaker A:

Oh, so.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker A:

So y'all were both.

Speaker B:

But we wasn't together.

Speaker A:

Got you, got you, got you.

Speaker B:

We wasn't together.

Speaker B:

That's still my kid's father, though.

Speaker A:

That's what's up.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker A:

So he left me.

Speaker A:

He left you while you were in jail?

Speaker B:

No, I'm saying.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

He left me when I was in the feds.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he left me when I went to the feds.

Speaker B:

But when I was in Boston, he.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he can come up with a dollar.

Speaker B:

The.

Speaker A:

Wait, the nigga you bought a detail shop left you.

Speaker B:

Hello?

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker B:

That's crazy.

Speaker B:

I say the same thing.

Speaker B:

I say the same thing then, I say the same thing now.

Speaker B:

It's crazy.

Speaker A:

Let me ask you this, and you gotta keep it real.

Speaker A:

Did that change you at all?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

It changed me as far as my trust.

Speaker B:

Like, my trust is bad.

Speaker B:

Like, but it didn't change my heart when it comes to my partner.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

So you can still love your partner the same way if he passes X amount of tests, I got you.

Speaker B:

I still.

Speaker B:

I give a person a shirt off my back, even with my man.

Speaker B:

I pour into my man before I pour into myself.

Speaker B:

And that's something that I deal with, that I'm learning not to do.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

I need an equal.

Speaker B:

We need to Be equally yoked, pouring to me like I pour into you.

Speaker A:

Gotta be reciprocated.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Gotta be reciprocated.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Cause then you just drain and you become a leak.

Speaker B:

Then you drain in yourself.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So give me the experience of when you're in prison.

Speaker A:

So she did eventually snitch on you though, right?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

What was the circumstances that made her tell.

Speaker A:

Do you believe.

Speaker B:

I believe it was an influence she had in her ear.

Speaker B:

So a ex friend of mine, I had ended up teaching her the game.

Speaker B:

And she was actually the young lady who came and bombed me out in Boston.

Speaker B:

You know, like I said, the client took her 25k.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

She flew down to Boston and bonded me out.

Speaker B:

Her dad was a federal agent.

Speaker B:

So in my paperwork it said CIA 1, CIA 2.

Speaker B:

They didn't have to get on the stand.

Speaker A:

How does that work?

Speaker A:

Like, that's the co conspirator one co conspirator two thing.

Speaker A:

So how does that work?

Speaker A:

Does the feds.

Speaker A:

You don't have to get on the stand to be a quote unquote rat.

Speaker B:

You see the stuff that's going on in oh child, let me not.

Speaker B:

But yeah, you don't.

Speaker B:

Confidential Informer 1.

Speaker B:

Confidential Informer 2.

Speaker A:

So that's gotta be heartbreaking, right?

Speaker A:

Cause I'm sure that's somebody that you groomed, took care of, looked out for, and then they told on you do.

Speaker B:

You broke in my house, Robbed me blind.

Speaker A:

Oh, wait.

Speaker A:

Oh, shit.

Speaker A:

She broke in your house after both of them.

Speaker A:

Oh, wow.

Speaker A:

She broke in while you were in the feds?

Speaker B:

No, while I was in.

Speaker B:

Yeah, while I was in like the early stages of me still going back and forth to court.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

Both of them did.

Speaker A:

What do you think that was from?

Speaker A:

Jealousy?

Speaker A:

Envy?

Speaker A:

Just survival.

Speaker B:

My mom told me.

Speaker B:

My mom told me.

Speaker B:

She used to tell me.

Speaker B:

My mom used to always tell me, like, those girls jealous of you, babe.

Speaker B:

And I remember one, my 25th birthday, I had a 25th surprise birthday party and I had a cake.

Speaker B:

And the cake had all our picture on the cake.

Speaker B:

We used to call ourselves the COVID girls, right?

Speaker B:

So on one side of the.

Speaker B:

Like, the picture was like a whole picture of just us three.

Speaker B:

When I picked the picture, when I picked the cake up from Nell no's bakery, the cake was fine.

Speaker B:

When I get to the Claremont Hotel, the cake was cracked.

Speaker B:

I was on one side of the cake and they was on the other side of the cake.

Speaker B:

Not only was my mom telling me this.

Speaker B:

Guys I was dating in was telling me how jealous these girls Was.

Speaker B:

But me being, you know, having a big heart, I looked over all the red flags I wanted.

Speaker B:

I always seen the good out of a person, right?

Speaker B:

And that good got me to experience a lot of things in life.

Speaker B:

To this day that I will, I vow to never experience again.

Speaker B:

Trusting females.

Speaker A:

That's crazy, man.

Speaker A:

Like, you know when you try to put somebody on and they turn your back on you?

Speaker A:

Like, we always hear the men's side of getting snitched on.

Speaker A:

We rarely ever hear about the woman's side of getting snitched on.

Speaker A:

Like, is your first thing, like, vengeance?

Speaker A:

Like, oh, I wanna do something physically bad to her, or is it just, like, I get it, I understand.

Speaker A:

Like, what is your mindset when that happens, then?

Speaker B:

My mindset was vengeance.

Speaker B:

But after being incarcerated for 84 months, I had time to think, ask God to give me, to open up my heart, to forgive them, you know, it was tough.

Speaker B:

It was real tough to know.

Speaker B:

And not only was it tough to know that my kid's father seen them in my stuff and asked me.

Speaker B:

He was like, you let so and so wear your Runway Louis Vuitton bag.

Speaker B:

You let absolutely not and didn't take it.

Speaker B:

He allowed them to prance around Oakland in my clothes.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker A:

So you say you got seven years, right?

Speaker A:

During those seven years, did your kids get to visit you often?

Speaker A:

Or how did that play out?

Speaker B:

When I was in Dublin, they was able to visit me often.

Speaker B:

And then my mom was bringing me contraband inside Dublin.

Speaker B:

So eventually somebody dropped a dime on me and I got shipped to Waseca.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

Miles and miles and miles away, and I wasn't able to see my children no more.

Speaker A:

Oh, now that had to super hurt.

Speaker B:

That was super, super hard.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

What was it like?

Speaker A:

What were the conditions like for a woman in jail?

Speaker A:

Like, again, we've had people come on our platform and say we had to pick cotton.

Speaker A:

You know, they just.

Speaker A:

Some of the most.

Speaker A:

Yeah, some of the most crazy things that you could think of, the craziest conditions you can think of, they've had to deal with it in jail, in the Feds.

Speaker A:

So what was your experience like in the Feds?

Speaker B:

My experience in the feds, any day away from your kids, away from your children is a tough time.

Speaker B:

Away from your family is tough.

Speaker B:

So as far as experience in FCI Dublin, it was okay because we had a weight pal.

Speaker B:

We had a weight pack.

Speaker B:

I worked out, like, my whole 84 months.

Speaker B:

I worked out.

Speaker B:

I went to school.

Speaker B:

So in Dublin, I would say it was.

Speaker B:

It was fairly decent.

Speaker B:

But once I got To Waseca, we had to shovel snow.

Speaker B:

We had to work.

Speaker B:

Like it was different.

Speaker B:

And I just.

Speaker B:

I'm a.

Speaker B:

I felt like I'm a boss.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm not about to work for nobody, for these pennies, let alone you already in the feds, you know, So I had an orderly job, so I worked in a unit.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But I was.

Speaker B:

I lost all my good time.

Speaker B:

From contraband.

Speaker B:

Yeah, from contraband.

Speaker B:

My mom used to put money on other people's books.

Speaker B:

Cause I had restitution.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

So, like, you know, every so often we see, like, the prison girls go viral.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I've been seeing that lately.

Speaker B:

Prison bae.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Prison baes.

Speaker A:

Did you ever experience dating in prison?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Or how men be trying to get at the guards?

Speaker B:

No, but, you know, they have a big lawsuit with that.

Speaker A:

For real?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

They closing down FCI Devlin, I think cause of that.

Speaker A:

Oh, for real?

Speaker B:

Cause of the inmates dating the guard.

Speaker A:

How does that even happen?

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

It's like, can't y'all get on the outside?

Speaker B:

Like, why is y'all.

Speaker A:

Why do you think You a woman.

Speaker A:

Tell us, how do you think that happened?

Speaker B:

I know, because I just.

Speaker B:

That's scary.

Speaker B:

I'm glad I've never experienced that.

Speaker B:

A guard never came onto me.

Speaker A:

Yeah, well, it would be in your situation.

Speaker A:

It'd be you trying to get at a guard.

Speaker A:

Cause you're the actual.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I wasn't trying to get at no guard.

Speaker B:

I was trying to do my time and get home to my kids, you know, trying to change my life while I was in rehabilitation, while I was incarcerated.

Speaker A:

Now, if you were in a relationship.

Speaker A:

Let's just say you were in a relationship and you went into the Feds, what would your expectation be for that.

Speaker B:

Dude to hold me down?

Speaker A:

The whole seven.

Speaker B:

The whole seven.

Speaker B:

You see Remy Ma and Papoose, that dude held her down and got cheated on, man.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

So that's really true.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she.

Speaker A:

Hell, yeah.

Speaker A:

You ain't see the battle.

Speaker B:

Oh.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

She cheated on him for sure.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I expect that, dude.

Speaker B:

Cause that's what I'mma do, right?

Speaker B:

I'm gonna hold my dude down.

Speaker A:

You know what's so funny?

Speaker A:

I asked somebody this.

Speaker A:

I said, can you be loyal if you cheat on your partner?

Speaker A:

I don't think you can.

Speaker A:

I don't think you can be called a loyal partner because that's the closest person to you.

Speaker B:

That's why I don't cheat.

Speaker A:

Explain that.

Speaker A:

And that's good.

Speaker B:

It's a tough.

Speaker B:

It's a Tough one.

Speaker B:

So at.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker B:

I can't remember what age I was, but my father shot my mom in the back for infidelity.

Speaker B:

So from that day forward, I vowed that I would never cheat on my partner.

Speaker A:

That's deep.

Speaker A:

That's deep.

Speaker A:

So did you look.

Speaker A:

Did you not look at your.

Speaker A:

You being a daddy's girl, but you didn't look at your dad any type of way?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

Anger.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Was like, why?

Speaker B:

He could have killed my mom.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But it was.

Speaker B:

He was enraged.

Speaker B:

He's like, I do all this.

Speaker B:

My mom, when I tell you her closet used to be crazy.

Speaker B:

My mom, her designer was crazy.

Speaker B:

She.

Speaker B:

She had mink coats to the floor.

Speaker B:

Like, she.

Speaker B:

My daddy took care of her.

Speaker B:

So for him to find out about infidelity, I mean.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And my dad wasn't.

Speaker B:

He was in the Navy.

Speaker B:

He's in the army.

Speaker A:

Oh, okay.

Speaker A:

So it was just probably one of those situations where she just needed somebody.

Speaker A:

Why do you think that.

Speaker A:

Why do you think that happens, like, so often?

Speaker A:

Why do you think that there's so many people getting in relationships and cheating?

Speaker A:

Like, why not just leave?

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Why not just leave?

Speaker B:

Why continue to waste time?

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

Time is so precious.

Speaker B:

It's so precious.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't know.

Speaker B:

I think it has a lot to do with their background, how they was raised.

Speaker B:

I honestly, really, really, honestly do I think people should take.

Speaker B:

People think counseling is not good.

Speaker B:

Counseling is really good.

Speaker B:

It's really an eye opener.

Speaker A:

Have you been to counseling?

Speaker B:

I mean, I go to counseling every Friday and Saturday.

Speaker A:

Some people say it's good to go to counseling even if you don't have anything going on.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker B:

It's good to talk to somebody that you don't know.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

But you have to have the right counselor.

Speaker A:

That's real.

Speaker B:

But as far.

Speaker B:

I don't know, people, like, nowadays, this generation.

Speaker B:

That's why I don't.

Speaker B:

Baby.

Speaker B:

Aunt.

Speaker B:

I'm scared to date.

Speaker B:

Baby.

Speaker B:

You just.

Speaker B:

You have to be careful nowadays.

Speaker B:

I'm scared.

Speaker B:

I'm not even gonna sit here and hold you.

Speaker B:

I don't date.

Speaker B:

I'm staying in Atlanta, and, you know, I.

Speaker B:

It's definitely tough out there.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I heard Atlanta was, like, for women.

Speaker A:

I heard it was just tough.

Speaker A:

Cause there's so many women versus men out there.

Speaker B:

Yes, it is.

Speaker B:

But still with the women, you have to be careful because the women be so.

Speaker B:

Like, they be dating for a handbag or to get their rent paid.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Like, what is y'all doing selling y'all souls, like, I don't know.

Speaker B:

To each of his own.

Speaker B:

I'm not about to sit up here and act like.

Speaker B:

But one thing.

Speaker B:

One thing Bella did was got her own bag.

Speaker B:

Without no nigga, without no man.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That's what I used to say.

Speaker B:

I didn't need a man, right?

Speaker B:

But, baby, I need a man.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I think we all wanna be strong no more.

Speaker A:

We all need some type of companionship.

Speaker B:

That's period.

Speaker A:

That's point blank, period.

Speaker B:

I want somebody who can lead me, who can make me feel safe, who can provide for me, who I can depend on, who I can feel my soft girl era in.

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

I don't wanna be strong no more.

Speaker A:

But this is the question I always ask, right?

Speaker A:

Cause why don't y'all just get with a square?

Speaker B:

I don't want no square.

Speaker B:

From Delaware.

Speaker B:

I don't want no square.

Speaker B:

You gotta be street smart.

Speaker B:

You gotta.

Speaker B:

I don't want no square.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying.

Speaker A:

But y'all be like, I want the six, eight, nigga, that swole that got all the.

Speaker A:

This nigga don't have swole.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

I don't even.

Speaker B:

What I want that nobody don't.

Speaker B:

I mean that.

Speaker B:

I'm not gonna say what I want, what nobody don't want.

Speaker B:

But what Bella want, right, is time.

Speaker A:

That can't be it, bro.

Speaker A:

It's a million niggas that got time, so that can't just be it, brother.

Speaker B:

Come on.

Speaker B:

I mean, not just that.

Speaker B:

I'm on loyalty.

Speaker B:

I want communication.

Speaker B:

I just.

Speaker B:

I want a man who can make me feel safe, right?

Speaker B:

Like, who can lead.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

It's a compatible.

Speaker A:

I think it's more so.

Speaker A:

The older you get, it's harder to be compatible with people because it's like your standards are gonna be higher.

Speaker B:

I know my worth, baby.

Speaker B:

Yeah, baby.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Thank God for that.

Speaker B:

Cause I definitely know my worth.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I ain't, baby.

Speaker B:

Not me.

Speaker A:

So you get out.

Speaker A:

So you get out, right?

Speaker A:

And when did you get out?

Speaker A:

You go in:

Speaker B:

I went in two.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker B:

I got out in:

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Going:

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Did I win in:

Speaker B:

I guess.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it says you went in:

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And you now owe, what, 1.2 million to the restitution.

Speaker A:

When you hear that number, you don't feel like doing a Russell Simmons and going to Bali or faking your death, like Tupac?

Speaker A:

Like 1.2 million.

Speaker B:

I got back in the game.

Speaker A:

So you paying child support to the motherfuckers.

Speaker B:

I'm paying child support to the white men.

Speaker B:

Let me stop.

Speaker B:

Yeah, but, yeah, I got back in the game when I came home.

Speaker A:

So what is the difference now in the game?

Speaker A:

Did the game change when you got out?

Speaker A:

Was it the same?

Speaker A:

Was it the same thing?

Speaker A:

You went back.

Speaker B:

So I didn't get back into the candy stores.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker A:

You did something different.

Speaker B:

I just got back in the diamond game.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

It was much harder.

Speaker B:

Much harder.

Speaker A:

What changed?

Speaker B:

The sales rep was like, no, we have to call our own bank.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Instead of us contacting our bank.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

They was like, no, we gotta call our own bank.

Speaker B:

We gotta call our own merchant.

Speaker B:

No, we can't.

Speaker B:

We don't know who we talking to on the other side of that phone.

Speaker A:

Do you credit yourself for fucking the game?

Speaker A:

They probably learned from y'alls.

Speaker B:

Well, no.

Speaker B:

Well, it was one person who was on a person I know who was in a game that had got on American greed, that had told this story.

Speaker A:

Oh, if you make American greed before me.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they was on American greed.

Speaker A:

Did they put you on American greed?

Speaker B:

No, they call her the bank robbing babe.

Speaker B:

I know her too.

Speaker B:

She from the bay area.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's hard name.

Speaker B:

She was getting that check.

Speaker A:

That's a hard name.

Speaker B:

You gotta go look her story up on American greed, the bank robbin babe.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Her name Neisha Jackson.

Speaker B:

Yeah, she in Waseca right now.

Speaker B:

She coming home.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Neisha.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Shout out to Neisha, man.

Speaker B:

Yeah, the bank robbing babe.

Speaker A:

So you try in the game did that.

Speaker A:

That didn't work out for you or like, okay, got you.

Speaker B:

I was trying to get my kids back.

Speaker B:

I said, I like.

Speaker B:

I end up getting my personal training license and start doing personal training.

Speaker B:

For personal training, I got into body contouring.

Speaker A:

Right, right.

Speaker A:

So now you're doing the.

Speaker B:

I like to help people, Right.

Speaker B:

I like people to feel good about theyself, to look good.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, I got into fitness.

Speaker A:

Did you.

Speaker A:

You know, with all of this.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

There's a couple questions that I had, right?

Speaker A:

Like you coming home with all these diamonds and did you ever get robbed or did anybody ever try you what?

Speaker B:

Man?

Speaker B:

Did I ever get robbed?

Speaker B:

I done been robbed about four times.

Speaker A:

Oh, for real?

Speaker A:

So that just come with the game?

Speaker B:

That just come with the game.

Speaker B:

I was out there by myself.

Speaker B:

I was known for getting diamonds.

Speaker B:

But me and one of my, you know, the young lady I was telling you about, we was on our way to meet A client to sell them a Breitling watch, right?

Speaker B:

And I was in my new.

Speaker B:

I had an X5 BMW at the time, right?

Speaker B:

And we were at a gas station on 98, 98th and East Oakland.

Speaker B:

Is not a nice.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's not a real safe area to be in, right?

Speaker B:

But we were.

Speaker B:

We pulled up.

Speaker B:

And to this day, I don't pull in parks.

Speaker B:

I always back in parks.

Speaker B:

We were pulled in a park and the.

Speaker B:

Some guy got out the car and was like, it's white smoke coming from your BMW.

Speaker B:

So us being green beans, we got out, got out the car.

Speaker B:

Both of us got the car at the same time.

Speaker B:

Soon as we got to the back, we looked.

Speaker B:

He was like, pulled out a gun and was like, give me everything.

Speaker B:

Your purse, pop the trunk.

Speaker B:

Give me everything that's in the trunk.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

Took everything.

Speaker A:

How much did he take?

Speaker B:

He took the Breitling watch.

Speaker B:

I don't know how much.

Speaker B:

That Breitling watch was about 40,000, I think.

Speaker B:

Cause it was the one with the diamonds.

Speaker B:

Our handbags.

Speaker B:

We had Chanel handbags.

Speaker B:

I had money in my purse.

Speaker B:

He walked away with about.

Speaker B:

At least about.

Speaker B:

About 80.

Speaker B:

80 grand on light.

Speaker B:

Light, Light.

Speaker A:

Light work.

Speaker A:

Was that the largest L you taken when it came to getting robbed?

Speaker A:

You said four times.

Speaker A:

It's crazy.

Speaker B:

The largest L I took was when they robbed my house.

Speaker A:

How much was that?

Speaker B:

They took everything.

Speaker B:

Oh, they took handbags, money, friends.

Speaker B:

So called friends.

Speaker B:

And then when I came home and I was dealing with my son's father died, my youngest son's father, my cousin, baby daddy tried to rob us, but he was my youngest son, father from New York.

Speaker B:

That wasn't.

Speaker B:

That didn't work, right?

Speaker B:

That didn't work.

Speaker B:

Tried to rob us in front of my mom, house, my own cousin, baby daddy.

Speaker B:

That's exactly.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So you've seen the effects of what money can do to people for you?

Speaker B:

I've seen the effects what money can do to people.

Speaker B:

Greed.

Speaker A:

So, like, you know, when we get in the game, right?

Speaker A:

The first thing we tell ourselves is, man, I'm doing this to feed my family, right?

Speaker A:

But then at some point, we make enough to feed our family and we're just still in the game.

Speaker A:

Is that just a part of us that's just.

Speaker A:

Are we greedy just inherently or we greedy?

Speaker B:

That's a lie.

Speaker B:

That's a myth.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

Cap, you was not in this game to feed your family.

Speaker B:

You in this game cause you greedy.

Speaker B:

I could have chose a different life to live instead of being a product of what I was of my environment, but I chose to get in the game to make fast money.

Speaker B:

Cause that's all I seen.

Speaker B:

But I don't.

Speaker B:

I can't now.

Speaker B:

I feel like, you know, going to counseling, I can't.

Speaker B:

I don't blame my life on.

Speaker B:

I don't blame what I went through on nobody.

Speaker B:

I feel like it was God's timing.

Speaker B:

It was all destined, right?

Speaker B:

How my life played out.

Speaker B:

Everything that happened in my life was all destined and I embraced it.

Speaker B:

I don't really lie.

Speaker B:

It was all destined.

Speaker A:

Now, you know, you did detail.

Speaker A:

You know, you speak about your kid's father and you also speak about dating drug dealers and things like that.

Speaker A:

What advice would you give to a young woman that's dating a man that's in the game?

Speaker B:

Get out.

Speaker B:

Get out while you ahead.

Speaker A:

Why would you say that?

Speaker B:

Cause it's not gonna lead.

Speaker B:

It's not gonna lead to a straight and narrow path, right?

Speaker B:

It's gonna either lead to you taking that N case or you getting in the game.

Speaker B:

Cause you see him in the game and you wanna be that down chick.

Speaker B:

But I never was.

Speaker B:

I mean, although I was dating drug dealers, I never interfered with what they had on.

Speaker B:

What they had going on.

Speaker B:

I had my own thing going on.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

I was a drug dealer in the diamond game, so.

Speaker A:

Right, right.

Speaker A:

You was, yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm probably bringing in more money than you.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

I'm just being real, you know?

Speaker A:

That's crazy, man.

Speaker A:

So, like, now fast forward, right?

Speaker A:

You have a book.

Speaker A:

Where is the book at?

Speaker A:

Yeah, go grab.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker A:

Just put that in the camera.

Speaker A:

This camera right there?

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker A:

All right, talk to us about the book.

Speaker B:

So my book is called Recidivism.

Speaker B:

Beauty Before Bars.

Speaker B:

Um, this book is a testament of my life.

Speaker B:

en I was in federal prison in:

Speaker B:

I wrote it in:

Speaker B:

And it took me a long time to tell my story because I was embarrassed.

Speaker B:

I was ashamed.

Speaker B:

And if it wasn't for my 21 year old, that's my now 21 year old giving me the okay.

Speaker B:

I would have never told my story, to be honest.

Speaker A:

If you would have put together a quick synopsis of the book, it just details your life.

Speaker A:

Is there something in there that we're gonna find out about you that we might not know?

Speaker A:

That's not in these interviews.

Speaker B:

And you gotta purchase the book.

Speaker A:

Come on now.

Speaker A:

Where can people purchase this book?

Speaker B:

So it's officially out, right now it's officially out.

Speaker B:

The book is officially out.

Speaker B:

You can purchase the book and my Instagram is.

Speaker B:

It's Bella barcode.

Speaker B:

My TikTok is it's Bella Barcode.

Speaker B:

My Facebook is Bella Barco Fitness.

Speaker B:

And you can purchase the book in my link in my bio.

Speaker B:

And I have a book tour coming soon, too.

Speaker A:

That's what's up.

Speaker A:

I feel like I told you this before, right?

Speaker A:

I said, you gotta make a movie about this life.

Speaker A:

Yo.

Speaker A:

This is a crazy story.

Speaker A:

Who do you want to play you in your movie?

Speaker A:

Let's just say Tyler Perry hit you up, man.

Speaker A:

Hey, Bella, I got the bag for you.

Speaker B:

Um, Teyana Taylor.

Speaker A:

That'd be dope.

Speaker B:

T.T.

Speaker A:

That'D be dope.

Speaker B:

I want her to play.

Speaker B:

I would love for her to play me.

Speaker A:

That'd be fire, actually.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Who's gonna play the girl that ratted on you?

Speaker B:

I want.

Speaker B:

What's the young lady from the BAE name?

Speaker B:

What's her name?

Speaker B:

She a pretty girl from the BAE she used to mess with.

Speaker A:

Sweetie.

Speaker B:

Sweetie.

Speaker B:

I want Saweetie to play only from the Bay.

Speaker A:

The cast fired her.

Speaker B:

Yeah, only cause she from the Bay and she know how we are.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you know, see, with Teyana Taylor, she adapts to any environment she in, right?

Speaker B:

So she don't have to be from the Bay area.

Speaker B:

She is talented.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

That's hard, though.

Speaker A:

I like that cast already.

Speaker A:

Can you give us one Ju.

Speaker A:

You don't gotta go into detail, but just give us one juicy nugget from that book that people.

Speaker B:

One juicy.

Speaker A:

Just one juicy.

Speaker A:

Just one juicy.

Speaker B:

These with taste.

Speaker B:

Take a bite out of her.

Speaker A:

Okay, we'll take it.

Speaker A:

We'll take it.

Speaker A:

Now, I gotta ask you this, right?

Speaker A:

You being the diamond expert, right?

Speaker A:

And again, the book Tell Em where to get that.

Speaker A:

It's Amazon.

Speaker A:

That's everywhere they can get it.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm also on Amazon.

Speaker B:

And I'll be on Barnes and Noble soon.

Speaker A:

Audiobook.

Speaker B:

Huh?

Speaker A:

Audiobook coming soon.

Speaker B:

Or I have an audiobook on Amazon as well.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Barnes and Nobles book tours coming soon.

Speaker B:

First stop is Philly for the book tour, then Vegas.

Speaker B:

And you can also book me.

Speaker B:

Everything is the link is in my bio.

Speaker A:

Fly.

Speaker A:

Now, I wanted to ask you this about lab diamond versus real diamond, right?

Speaker A:

We got into this last time, right?

Speaker A:

For whatever reason, if you talk to a street nigga, they are just so against the lab diamond, right?

Speaker A:

And I was like, ain't that a diamond?

Speaker A:

Like, it's not a fake diamond.

Speaker A:

It's just a diamond made by the lab.

Speaker A:

Yeah, by the lab.

Speaker A:

What is your personal take on that?

Speaker B:

My personal take?

Speaker B:

I wouldn't care if a nigga has some fake diamonds.

Speaker A:

Well, see, so you do think it's fake then?

Speaker B:

I mean, it's fake.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I mean, you duh.

Speaker B:

Like, come on.

Speaker B:

Yes, it is.

Speaker B:

And if it ain't VVS lab, they.

Speaker A:

Have VVS Lab diamonds.

Speaker B:

They do have VVS Lab diamonds.

Speaker B:

And they almost cost damn near as much as the real thing.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

But in your mind, it is still they fake.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

See, I don't.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I'm just different.

Speaker B:

I was raised.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I just don't care about what a man has.

Speaker B:

It's what's in your heart.

Speaker B:

It's your time.

Speaker B:

That stuff is priceless right now.

Speaker B:

These.

Speaker B:

I don't know, these women, these men different nowadays.

Speaker B:

I don't.

Speaker B:

To me, I mean, I want what's in your heart, right?

Speaker B:

I want your time.

Speaker B:

I want your.

Speaker B:

I want communication.

Speaker B:

That's something money can't buy.

Speaker B:

Loyalty, something money can't buy.

Speaker B:

We don't have that nowadays in relationships.

Speaker A:

So we definitely don't.

Speaker B:

So whoever you with, stay with them, baby.

Speaker B:

Cause it's hard to come by a real man or a real woman.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

And that's the truth.

Speaker A:

That's the truth I want.

Speaker A:

This is just a question my guy had.

Speaker A:

He said this, right?

Speaker A:

You being the breadwinner in your last relationship, right?

Speaker A:

What are some tips you can give to the man?

Speaker B:

Oh, me being the breadwinner.

Speaker B:

Relationship.

Speaker A:

You was the breadwinner, right?

Speaker A:

So what tips would you give to the man to be with the woman that is the breadwinner?

Speaker B:

Pour into her.

Speaker B:

Pour into your woman.

Speaker B:

Even though if she the breadwinner, still pour into her.

Speaker A:

Examples.

Speaker B:

Here you go.

Speaker B:

Example.

Speaker B:

Pour into your woman.

Speaker B:

Just be.

Speaker B:

I mean, any nice gesture help, like running her bath water, date night.

Speaker B:

You booking a date night, her not having to ask.

Speaker A:

So that'd be enough.

Speaker A:

So that'd be enough.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Her not having to ask.

Speaker B:

Like a woman shouldn't.

Speaker B:

You should know your woman, right?

Speaker B:

If you enter her, you should know what your woman dislikes.

Speaker B:

Like, don't like.

Speaker B:

You should know all this if you into her.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

If you into her, you know.

Speaker A:

And what advice would you say you would give to the woman that is the breadwinner to know that she's dating somebody.

Speaker B:

That's for her reciprocation.

Speaker B:

Reciprocate.

Speaker B:

Don't put all your.

Speaker B:

Don't pour all your eggs into this man if he ain't reciprocating it back.

Speaker B:

Reciprocation is everything.

Speaker A:

Now.

Speaker A:

TikTok is about to go away tomorrow.

Speaker B:

You think so?

Speaker A:

I think so.

Speaker A:

Y'all think so?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's going away.

Speaker A:

It's going away.

Speaker A:

Oh, he said that with a thousand percent confidence.

Speaker A:

What are you gonna do?

Speaker A:

I mean, you've built.

Speaker A:

We've all built platforms on these platforms.

Speaker B:

All the platforms.

Speaker A:

I think for me, right, it's a scary thought that.

Speaker A:

Cause I was.

Speaker A:

I don't make a lot of money on TikTok, right?

Speaker A:

If any.

Speaker A:

So it didn't really impact me in that per se.

Speaker A:

But I start seeing creators crying like, this is my livelihood.

Speaker A:

And I never even thought about that.

Speaker A:

Like, damn, there's people that make a living off of this.

Speaker A:

And then when you think about that, you go, all of this shit can be taken from us at any moment.

Speaker B:

Should be taken for us any moment.

Speaker B:

Don't idolize God's G O, D.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Lowercase G O, D.

Speaker B:

Don't idolize God.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Idolize G O, D.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

When you.

Speaker B:

I mean to.

Speaker B:

Or to whoever your higher power may be, you have to put him first and he go order your steps.

Speaker B:

It's the truth.

Speaker B:

Like, people don't understand that you have to put God first.

Speaker B:

You have to.

Speaker B:

And everything else go fall in play.

Speaker A:

That's a fact.

Speaker A:

So one of the biggest platforms that you've probably helped build being gone.

Speaker A:

Like, what do you think it's going to stay gone?

Speaker A:

Or do you feel like it'll come back?

Speaker B:

I think it'll come back.

Speaker B:

They better start downloading Lemonade.

Speaker B:

That's powered by TikTok.

Speaker A:

Nah, they over there downloading the app that's fully Asian.

Speaker A:

What's that other app?

Speaker A:

Red Notes.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Red Note.

Speaker A:

They just coming up with apps to just do.

Speaker B:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

I never.

Speaker B:

That's my first time hearing about that Red Note.

Speaker A:

It made me understand how trash Instagram has gotten.

Speaker B:

Instagram is trash.

Speaker A:

Trash.

Speaker B:

It's so much.

Speaker B:

It's so fake and foolery on that.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

And that's another thing.

Speaker B:

Like, why did everybody feel the need to have to post everything that's going on in their life?

Speaker B:

Like, who do you have to.

Speaker B:

Who are you proving something to?

Speaker B:

Like, I'm confused about that.

Speaker B:

I'm so private, baby.

Speaker B:

You wouldn't know if I was or I was going.

Speaker B:

If it was snoring, if it was boring.

Speaker B:

Baby, you.

Speaker A:

But you don't.

Speaker A:

Okay, I get it to an extent.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

Because they're getting money from it.

Speaker A:

So if you're getting money from it.

Speaker B:

But some of them not getting money from it.

Speaker A:

That's true.

Speaker B:

That's True, baby.

Speaker B:

Atlanta, they gonna post they whole life every day, every step of the way.

Speaker A:

Why, man, is Atlanta gold?

Speaker A:

Still everybody talked about.

Speaker A:

Cause again, we're from Texas, right?

Speaker A:

So everybody.

Speaker A:

We had a bunch of people moving to Atlanta to try to chase their dream.

Speaker A:

Like that has been the thing.

Speaker A:

And I've watched a couple of them unsuccessful.

Speaker A:

Why you say that?

Speaker B:

It's just.

Speaker B:

It's the fake black Hollywood.

Speaker B:

Cause they.

Speaker B:

Everybody say it's the black Hollywood.

Speaker B:

It's not the black Hollywood, baby.

Speaker B:

It's not.

Speaker B:

It's so fake it till you make it out there.

Speaker B:

It's terrible.

Speaker B:

I mean, I'm out of there in May.

Speaker B:

I'm out of there sooner.

Speaker A:

Where you going?

Speaker B:

I'm.

Speaker B:

Oh, well, yeah, I'm out of there.

Speaker A:

Out of there, out of there, out of there.

Speaker A:

Why do you think it got the reputation that it has?

Speaker A:

Like, you know, like, they make it.

Speaker B:

Seem like everybody is celebrity bracelets.

Speaker B:

And you do one person makeup, you do one person hair.

Speaker B:

Now you a celebrity hairstylist, a celebrity makeup artist, you this, you that.

Speaker B:

Like, they don't know how to be humble.

Speaker B:

You have to be humble.

Speaker B:

Cause as quick as you get whatever you get, God can take it all away.

Speaker A:

Why do you think so many people get money and just get a God complex like that?

Speaker A:

Everybody.

Speaker A:

Always.

Speaker A:

The one thing I don't like about the world and what I see is, like, everybody, it just feels like they want to be better than the next person.

Speaker A:

Versus helping them up, picking them up.

Speaker B:

Versus helping them up.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, we see.

Speaker B:

That's how I was.

Speaker B:

We all go shine.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker B:

I'm not going.

Speaker B:

You would never know who the boss is.

Speaker B:

Cause we all look good.

Speaker A:

Real shit.

Speaker A:

That's how it's supposed to play.

Speaker B:

That's how it's supposed to play.

Speaker B:

You won't.

Speaker B:

Y'all get X, Y and Z.

Speaker B:

Don't ask the sales rep how much.

Speaker B:

Nothing costs.

Speaker B:

Just take it straight to the register.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And doesn't it suck, though, being like that?

Speaker A:

You know, they always say that you get your blessings by blessing other people, but the reality is, a lot of times you're the.

Speaker A:

Nobody ever checks on the person blessing the person.

Speaker B:

Nobody never checks on the person that blesses the person.

Speaker A:

It's crazy, man.

Speaker B:

It's crazy.

Speaker B:

Who can I call on, baby?

Speaker B:

Ramona Sellers.

Speaker A:

Man.

Speaker B:

Without a doubt.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

When I tell you that, baby, that's my girl.

Speaker A:

You know.

Speaker A:

You got your book out, you got.

Speaker A:

I feel like an incredible story that you could turn into a movie.

Speaker A:

What is the next move for Bella?

Speaker B:

The next move Is a movie.

Speaker A:

There you go.

Speaker A:

There we go.

Speaker B:

The next move.

Speaker B:

I've been getting a lot of great feedback.

Speaker B:

The next move is a movie.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Y'all ready for it?

Speaker A:

Y'all ready?

Speaker A:

He said he's.

Speaker A:

He's.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I hope to see.

Speaker A:

I definitely hope to see that, man.

Speaker A:

And like, like I say, I feel like Teyana Taylor, man.

Speaker A:

Come holler at Mela, man.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Look, let me.

Speaker B:

Let me.

Speaker B:

Let me try to get in tune with her now.

Speaker B:

Yeah, her and Sweetie.

Speaker A:

Nah, for real.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Nah, for real.

Speaker B:

I would love Kiki, Former, too, to play somebody, too.

Speaker A:

Yeah, she just.

Speaker A:

Keke's Kiki, man.

Speaker A:

Let's see.

Speaker A:

Male.

Speaker A:

Let's get some male actors.

Speaker A:

Who you want on the male side?

Speaker A:

Like, who's the ex.

Speaker A:

Boyfriends?

Speaker B:

Tyrese.

Speaker B:

I would like Tyrese.

Speaker A:

There you go.

Speaker A:

Come on, Ty.

Speaker B:

Tyrese.

Speaker B:

Who else?

Speaker B:

Mm, mm.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

Tyrese is one of them, though.

Speaker B:

Can't think of nobody else.

Speaker A:

With Trump being.

Speaker A:

I guess he's.

Speaker A:

Monday he gets inducted.

Speaker A:

Do you feel like.

Speaker B:

And he's a felon.

Speaker B:

Do you feel so stop judging, America.

Speaker B:

Stop judging.

Speaker A:

Do you feel like the next four years are gonna be better or worse than the last four?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

That man is a businessman at the end of the day.

Speaker B:

Now, don't.

Speaker B:

I'm not into politics, but one thing I do know is he is a businessman.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Nah, for real.

Speaker B:

And that's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker B:

Cause I see that girl, Alexis sky, she got so much backlash for.

Speaker B:

I feel so bad for her.

Speaker B:

Like, why would they do that?

Speaker B:

Why do.

Speaker B:

The world is so cruel.

Speaker B:

That's why I have to protect my kids, baby.

Speaker B:

Cause, mm, mm.

Speaker B:

It's so cruel.

Speaker A:

Like, now I have a research note that says one of your kids is in the NBA.

Speaker A:

Is this facts?

Speaker B:

That's what they say.

Speaker A:

That's what that.

Speaker B:

Oh, we gonna leave it just like that.

Speaker A:

Let it be the nigga ducking on there.

Speaker A:

See courtside at the game around here.

Speaker B:

Nice to be courtside at the game.

Speaker A:

Look out for.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker B:

That's what they saying.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's what I got on my notes here.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

We just leave it at that.

Speaker B:

We gonna leave it at that.

Speaker A:

And with that being said, Bella, man, do you got any shout outs?

Speaker B:

I wanna shout out first?

Speaker B:

I wanna shout out to my makeup artist.

Speaker B:

Cause, man, he did his big one.

Speaker A:

Come on now.

Speaker B:

I wanna shout out to my makeup artist.

Speaker B:

Cause he did his big one.

Speaker B:

His name is Gutter and he's in Atlanta.

Speaker B:

Y'all hit him up when y'all come to Atlanta.

Speaker B:

Cause when I tell you he did his big one, he did his.

Speaker B:

He always do his big one.

Speaker A:

Come on, now.

Speaker B:

And I wanna shout out to my angel, Ramona Sellers.

Speaker B:

I want to shout out to my children.

Speaker B:

My.

Speaker B:

My 24 year old.

Speaker B:

He behind bars.

Speaker B:

Love you to death.

Speaker B:

Mommy got you.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

My kids.

Speaker B:

I don't know what I'd do without them.

Speaker B:

I want to shout out Princess Pope.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Shout out Princess Man.

Speaker B:

Shout out Princess Man.

Speaker B:

The dopest realtor in Dallas.

Speaker A:

Come on now.

Speaker B:

Hit her up when you go to Dallas.

Speaker B:

And D, I want to give my stylist, my hairstylist, D'Angelo Glenn.

Speaker B:

Friend, thank you for always being there for you, girl.

Speaker B:

Love you.

Speaker A:

Come on, now.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker A:

Well, you know, like I said, you have an incredible story.

Speaker A:

Once again, please show them the book.

Speaker A:

Put that on the screen.

Speaker A:

Let them see it.

Speaker A:

Yes, indeed.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker A:

Make sure y'all go tap in.

Speaker A:

Go get that.

Speaker B:

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And this is the best part.

Speaker A:

Bella Barcode.

Speaker A:

You are a real life street star.

Speaker A:

Are real life.

Speaker A:

It ain't real life.

Speaker A:

Real life street star.

Speaker A:

Know what time it is?

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