Episode 491

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26th Nov 2024

Wack 100 Unleashed: Insights on Kendrick, Wayne, and the Music Industry

Reallyfe Street Starz are back with an engaging conversation featuring Wack 100, who dives deep into his rise as a prominent voice in hip-hop and the music industry. He reflects on the authenticity that has propelled his career, sharing insights into the challenges and dynamics of managing artists from the streets. The discussion touches on the current state of hip-hop, including the recent rap battles involving Kendrick Lamar and Lil Wayne, with Whack offering his perspective on the implications for both artists. He emphasizes the importance of staying in the race and continuously seeking opportunities, whether through music or innovative business ventures. From the significance of collaboration to navigating the complexities of the industry, this episode is packed with valuable lessons and personal anecdotes that resonate with aspiring artists and entrepreneurs alike.

Chapters:

  • 00:00 - Introducing Whack 100
  • 03:25 - Current Events in Hip Hop
  • 10:05 - The Politics of Fame: Drake and the West Coast
  • 14:24 - Kendrick's Influence on Unity
  • 16:23 - The Influence of Kendrick Lamar
  • 24:25 - The Reality of Street Life and Choices
  • 29:56 - The Changing Landscape of Music Consumption
  • 37:04 - The Downfall of Gang Culture
  • 40:00 - The Misconception of Gangster Culture
  • 43:00 - The Diddy Situation
  • 51:51 - The Challenges of Community Unity
  • 58:47 - The Return of Big Meech
  • 01:02:43 - Navigating Trust in the Industry
  • 01:10:14 - The Expansion of Business Ventures
  • 01:11:07 - The Changing Landscape of the Music Industry
  • 01:18:40 - The Rise of Kendrick
  • 01:22:29 - Navigating the Podcasting Journey

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Transcript
Speaker A:

Real life street stars, man.

Speaker A:

We got that boy whack 100 in here, man.

Speaker B:

What's going on, man?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

This day, I was gonna say, you know, it's crazy, man.

Speaker B:

You tapped in with baby, and I.

Speaker A:

Was the one filming it.

Speaker B:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Like when you came out here.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

That family.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

So, man, that's what's up, man.

Speaker A:

How you know, it's crazy because you.

Speaker A:

You become one of the biggest voices online.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, everybody I.

Speaker A:

I tap into whack show, whether it's Clubhouse, whether it's YouTube.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Bro, you really.

Speaker A:

You really big out here.

Speaker A:

How did.

Speaker A:

How did that happen for you?

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I mean, I just.

Speaker B:

You know what?

Speaker B:

Just being me, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

I think it's.

Speaker B:

It just being.

Speaker B:

Being me, Me being authentic, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Just, you know, I got a lot of insight, been a lot of places.

Speaker B:

I know a few things, and I don't mind sharing them.

Speaker B:

I think I'm the only one like me that talks to the people, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You know, I come from the streets.

Speaker B:

I've been in corporate America the last 25 years.

Speaker B:

Trucking, music entrepreneur, real estate, whatever you want to talk about.

Speaker B:

But even on the music side, you know, it ain't too many people that can authenticate or speak on some of these things, especially in this industry, the way I can, because those that can, they won't.

Speaker B:

And then a whole lot of them just don't know.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's crazy because, you know what I'm saying, I think when you first got in the game, when we start hearing about whack, it was, you know, beating somebody up at a game show.

Speaker B:

Behind, you know, like you was really known.

Speaker B:

It never was that.

Speaker B:

I mean, I've been in a situation where I had to defend my artist.

Speaker B:

And again, you know, I'm a different type of manager.

Speaker B:

I'm not the sitting in the building.

Speaker B:

I'm in the paint with my client.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So, you know, and.

Speaker B:

And majority of my clients, we come from the same place, so it's kind of like I'm not the manager that if you.

Speaker B:

You push up on my artist, I'm at home sleep, hearing about.

Speaker B:

I'm usually there with him.

Speaker B:

And, you know, like I said, I come from the streets.

Speaker B:

I've been to the penitentiary, youth authorities, juvenile, juvenile camps, yays.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm just.

Speaker B:

I'm just a legal entity But I haven't forgotten where I come from.

Speaker B:

So, you know, again, I think I'm the only one like me.

Speaker B:

I think I motivated people like me to try to get into the business, because right now, it's a little harder business to get into.

Speaker B:

Right, right, right, man.

Speaker B:

Let's.

Speaker B:

Let's talk about these current events topics real quick, bro.

Speaker B:

The current events.

Speaker B:

This.

Speaker B:

Kendrick Lamar and his.

Speaker B:

Drake.

Speaker B:

Drake.

Speaker B:

Drake.

Speaker B:

Shit, man.

Speaker B:

What is.

Speaker B:

What is your thoughts about this right now?

Speaker B:

I think it was a great rap battle.

Speaker B:

It was.

Speaker B:

We needed it.

Speaker B:

Hip hop needed it.

Speaker B:

It woke hip hop up.

Speaker B:

Definitely woke the west up.

Speaker B:

I think it was the eye opener for Drake.

Speaker B:

I think Drake may have underestimated Kendrick just a little bit.

Speaker B:

I understand why he did Kendrick.

Speaker B:

You know, Kendrick first wore world tour was with Drake.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

He was the first one to take Kendrick out, you know, on a world tour.

Speaker B:

I like the fact that there's no, like, no violence, no beef, no tension, right?

Speaker B:

They talking about doing something to somebody and all that, you know, and.

Speaker B:

And we needed it, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And Kendrick, he's still keeping alive right now today, you know, with what he's doing.

Speaker B:

So we needed it, man.

Speaker B:

It was a breath of fresh air for me.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

What about him going at Lil Wayne right now?

Speaker B:

How did you feel about that?

Speaker B:

I feel like.

Speaker B:

I think he was responding.

Speaker B:

It was.

Speaker B:

It was a.

Speaker B:

A respectful disrespect, if you want to see it like that, because let's think about it.

Speaker B:

Wayne went on somebody's thing and said that he felt let down, right?

Speaker B:

He felt like he was robbed, you know, of his chance to perform at the Super Bowl.

Speaker B:

I think he's saying this because it's in New Orleans, right?

Speaker B:

Kendrick said, nas is the only one gave me a salute.

Speaker B:

I think if Wayne at the end of his interview would have said, you know, but nevertheless, me and Kendrick, we know each other's love.

Speaker B:

I've been watching him grow in this game, and, you know, I'm gonna sit back, watch the show.

Speaker B:

I hope he kill it.

Speaker B:

I think Kendrick wouldn't have said nothing, but I think Kendrick saw the lack of acknowledgment as a disregard.

Speaker B:

And he responded.

Speaker B:

He said, I guess.

Speaker B:

What did he say?

Speaker B:

I see my hard work.

Speaker B:

You know, he said something, but he ain't dizzy.

Speaker B:

He ain't say the.

Speaker B:

You know, he said, I see my hard work was a little Wayne's let down.

Speaker B:

Some like that, you know, he ain't say nothing wrong.

Speaker B:

I.

Speaker B:

You know why Wayne didn't acknowledge him.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I think it would have been the right thing to do.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker A:

Now let me ask you this.

Speaker A:

There's a rumors going around that he actually got a new project on the way.

Speaker A:

Like this is just a mixtape.

Speaker A:

Is that real?

Speaker B:

I haven't called it in to ask.

Speaker B:

Just me looking at it.

Speaker B:

He dropped a blind 12 records, not like us.

Speaker B:

I kind I think came out in like what, may or something.

Speaker B:

We was all anticipating the August or September release at the latest.

Speaker B:

Once I seen the super bowl thing roll around, I figured he was going to stretch us into the week of super bowl, feed us a single or something.

Speaker B:

November, December, for the holidays.

Speaker B:

And then we was probably going to hear the real project, you know, a release of the real project single.

Speaker B:

Probably mid January and the week of super bowl weekend, that Wednesday or Friday, I felt good he was going to release a project.

Speaker B:

So looking at it, no more looking at it, no marketing, no promo, just release a blind 12.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I think this was just to kind of like beat his fans, feed the people.

Speaker B:

And remember, everybody got to come down off that.

Speaker B:

Not like us.

Speaker B:

Because right now everybody's saying, what, he gonna drop the top deck.

Speaker B:

So this 12 is putting us back in the mindset of rap music and songs.

Speaker B:

And not a major hit.

Speaker B:

Not expecting a major hit.

Speaker B:

We expecting some sauce.

Speaker B:

We expecting something.

Speaker B:

I believe he gonna deliver it, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But you know, if he had dropped his album.

Speaker B:

But even this 12, it's satisfying.

Speaker B:

It ain't.

Speaker B:

I haven't heard anybody say, ah, man, it ain't, you know, it's satisfying, you know, So I believe it's another project coming, I think.

Speaker B:

What did you think about academics?

Speaker B:

When he thought.

Speaker B:

He said it was.

Speaker B:

It was.

Speaker B:

It was a bad project.

Speaker B:

What did you thought about that?

Speaker B:

Well, academics is pro Drake, right?

Speaker B:

And I told him, act.

Speaker B:

You getting so sick me with this anti Kendrick stuff.

Speaker B:

You start to make Drake look bad because people know you talk to Drake and you got a relationship with him, right?

Speaker B:

So every time you come and you say that, it's kind of making it look like it's Drake on that.

Speaker B:

Now think about it in one instance, access.

Speaker B:

Ah, this project ain't that.

Speaker B:

There's that another.

Speaker B:

But then in another voice he says, I think it'll do 3, 400,000.

Speaker B:

It's contradicting of what you just said right Now.

Speaker B:

If you saying you yourself not a fan of the songs, cool.

Speaker B:

But to say the project's not a good project, but then say it's gonna do 3, 400,000 the first week.

Speaker B:

That don't add up because is struggling to do 50,000 right now.

Speaker B:

The first week, straight up NBA young boy 30,000.

Speaker B:

Glorilla topped everybody 69,000.

Speaker B:

Sexy Red, as hot as she was.

Speaker B:

Music was great.

Speaker B:

27,000.

Speaker B:

City Grill 7,000.

Speaker A:

42.

Speaker B:

42.

Speaker B:

Doug after getting out of jail, 10,000.

Speaker B:

So you know the numbers is down.

Speaker B:

So to say.

Speaker B:

I think Eminem did like 300, 280.

Speaker B:

So to say somebody doing 400 on a blind 12 with no marketing and promo, you can't say it's a bad project in the same breath.

Speaker B:

Just don't make sense.

Speaker A:

Okay, I got.

Speaker A:

I got a question, right?

Speaker A:

Because a guy named Snoopy Badass popped online and basically said, Drake, you good out here, you good on the west.

Speaker A:

Now how does that work with the politics?

Speaker B:

That's trolling.

Speaker A:

Okay, gotcha.

Speaker B:

Drake's not good on the west because of Snoopy Badass.

Speaker B:

Drake's good on the west because nobody has a problem with Drake on the west.

Speaker B:

Who has a problem with Drake?

Speaker B:

Nobody has a problem with Drake.

Speaker B:

We love Drake's music.

Speaker B:

It was just a rap battle.

Speaker B:

This wasn't Drake from Canada.

Speaker B:

He got no Crip, he not no blood.

Speaker B:

Kendrick Lamar ain't from nobody.

Speaker B:

Said he loves, he loved throughout la Grew's a native of cop.

Speaker B:

He grew up in Palu neighborhood but ain't nobody looking talking about they tripping to want to rob Drake or none.

Speaker B:

So that's just.

Speaker B:

But Snoopy did his job because look, you probably didn't know the he was but now you saying his name based upon this guy said that Drake is good out here.

Speaker B:

Right, right, right.

Speaker B:

Drake was never not good out here.

Speaker B:

So you know Snoopy's a up and coming rappers.

Speaker B:

So he keep doing what he's supposed to do with the Internet.

Speaker B:

Whatever make him talk, whatever makes somebody say his name, which may influence somebody go google him and which might run into some music or maybe a clip on his YouTube channel.

Speaker B:

So he did what he's supposed to do.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Kendrick.

Speaker B:

Is Kendrick a gangster?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Did Kendra ever say he was a gangster?

Speaker B:

Can you tell me?

Speaker B:

Well, at any time where.

Speaker B:

Where you can say based upon this, we think he's a gangster.

Speaker B:

I think yeah.

Speaker A:

Some of the lyrics insinuate that he might have.

Speaker A:

I can't give you some right out the gate.

Speaker B:

Listen, I bet I can ask you for some gangster lyrics from Scarface or the Ghetto Boy.

Speaker B:

You can recite him.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Because it was some gangster.

Speaker B:

Some memorable.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Okay, so give Me, the gangster lyrics that he said that would make you think Kendrick's a gangster?

Speaker A:

Well, I think it's more so from what people gather, right?

Speaker A:

I think it was.

Speaker A:

Was it noisy when they went to Compton and they had him and he was working out with his.

Speaker A:

You know, with his people, and you could tell that he was really from there, right?

Speaker A:

And then when you listen to the music, he kind of speak about it, but sometimes it'd be a third person.

Speaker B:

Okay, so, like, let me ask you a question.

Speaker B:

Kendrick grew up in the biggest and one of the oldest Paru sets in Compton, west side Pyro, right?

Speaker B:

That's where he grew up, right?

Speaker B:

So if you grow up someplace, right, you go through the being little and og.

Speaker B:

Pete.

Speaker B:

Pete, dog.

Speaker B:

What's up, Little?

Speaker B:

You keep your little ass in school, you see get shot, you see get beat up, you go to the local football games.

Speaker B:

You do everything.

Speaker B:

Do that live on the block, right?

Speaker B:

That's where you live, Right?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Okay, so he's rapping now, right?

Speaker B:

He's not like somebody's fake motherfuckers who's rapping about shit that they never seen or didn't, you know, didn't experience.

Speaker B:

He's rapping about what his upbringing was, right?

Speaker B:

So just because a dude lived in the projects or lived on the block, don't make that individual against it.

Speaker B:

Because a lot of people got big brothers and uncles and relatives as gangsters.

Speaker B:

And you know what we don't allow to happen with our sister's children or our little brothers or even ones on the block that we see got some potential.

Speaker B:

Hey, little.

Speaker B:

Get your little ass in the house.

Speaker B:

This ain't for you.

Speaker B:

You know about everything.

Speaker B:

You seen a get shot, you probably heard the murder plot happening in your mama's living room, but that don't make you a gangster because the place you grew up at got love for you, like they always did, right?

Speaker A:

But let me ask this.

Speaker A:

What do you say?

Speaker A:

He's trying to unify the west, right?

Speaker A:

And it's.

Speaker A:

Again, you know, when you see the.

Speaker A:

The Amazon prime and you see unity on stage, was that how much of that was Kendrick bringing y'all together?

Speaker A:

Or is it.

Speaker A:

Was it already in motion?

Speaker A:

He just gave y'all the platform.

Speaker B:

Kendrick planned the show, and on the show, he planned, he gave invites, and the invite showed up.

Speaker B:

That's what's up, you know, Crips, Bloods, essays, power rules.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm gonna say it myself.

Speaker B:

I don't think it's another city or state that got most street Structured in California.

Speaker B:

Southern California.

Speaker B:

Nope.

Speaker A:

Nah, it ain't straight up.

Speaker B:

It ain't nothing.

Speaker B:

But I can call five people right now and.

Speaker B:

And we can be congregating 500 deep tomorrow morning or tonight from different sides.

Speaker B:

One gonna answer the phone.

Speaker B:

What's up, cuz?

Speaker B:

We're gonna answer the phone.

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

Group one, go answer the phone.

Speaker B:

What's up, Paru?

Speaker B:

One, go answer for what's up, Blood?

Speaker B:

One go answer phone.

Speaker B:

Whack.

Speaker B:

What's up, homes?

Speaker B:

Everything is cool.

Speaker B:

Won't go answer the phone.

Speaker B:

From the Asian side.

Speaker B:

So it ain't, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Even if we want to call the motorcycle.

Speaker B:

That's a movement, you know what I'm saying, out here.

Speaker B:

So you know all you gotta do, you know, I know what I'm looking at when I'm looking at the stage.

Speaker B:

You know, all.

Speaker B:

Once you see 2, 3.

Speaker B:

I seen runchy from Grape Street, Watts.

Speaker B:

I seen Wacko from West side P.

Speaker B:

That's Compton, Watts.

Speaker B:

That's the greater la.

Speaker B:

Because everybody related.

Speaker B:

No, Dear Time, It's a respect.

Speaker B:

So did Kendra.

Speaker B:

Kendrick personally do that?

Speaker B:

He let these people around him know that's what I wanted to be.

Speaker B:

Let's bring everybody together.

Speaker B:

Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker B:

The artist, he didn't know.

Speaker B:

I'm pretty sure when they got backstage in the trailer area, they came to him.

Speaker B:

They shook hands.

Speaker B:

Man, Kendrick, I appreciate it, bro.

Speaker B:

It's love.

Speaker B:

We're gonna rock out tonight.

Speaker B:

And that's it.

Speaker B:

You know, at the end of the day, when y'all seen him shoot the video, that was Compton.

Speaker B:

Crips, Bloods Paul rules.

Speaker B:

That was greater LA out there, you know?

Speaker B:

So if they want to say that Kendrick Lamar got the influence to bring the streets together in a humble and peaceful way and call him a gangster for that, I will say that's gangster.

Speaker B:

But is Kendrick Lamar gangster that runs around promoting gang violence and.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And giving money to go do things within the realm of violence or any of that?

Speaker B:

Nah, that ain't Kendrick Lamar at all.

Speaker A:

Now, let me ask you this.

Speaker A:

You being who you are, we all know you to be one of the marketing geniuses in the game.

Speaker A:

If you were Drake's manager, what would you be doing right now?

Speaker B:

I said a couple months ago, first of all, Drake, you know, Drake is still Drake.

Speaker B:

Ain't nobody killed Draco.

Speaker B:

Number one streaming and all this.

Speaker B:

I believe Kendrick leveled him off.

Speaker B:

I believe that Rocky was going up for a while.

Speaker B:

He might have leveled him off, but ain't nothing stopping Drake returning them off of Going back up in the air, right?

Speaker B:

And he's so far up there, it don't even matter.

Speaker B:

II you know, I said months ago, I could see Drake going to do a few power moves he did.

Speaker B:

He went overseas, bailed a soccer team out, you know, a debt, you know, and he got into that.

Speaker B:

I could see him get behind another artist and helping them get off the ground.

Speaker B:

And then, you know, I.

Speaker B:

I probably.

Speaker B:

I would anticipate us hearing something from him in the fourth quarter that just got something to do with Drake's music, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I wouldn't entertain trying to, like, diss Kendrick again because everybody gonna look like my.

Speaker B:

It been four, five months.

Speaker B:

You weigh the white flag, like that's over with.

Speaker B:

I would just put that behind me, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, we didn't all watch them, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

This would make Floyd so great because he undefeated.

Speaker B:

But we didn't watch Drake have many battles in Concord.

Speaker B:

He just ran into one to where I don't think he was demolished, but I think at the end of the day, he lost it, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

The favor.

Speaker B:

The favor went to Kendrick, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So if I was, I would just do Drake, make some power moves in business that he already did and do Drake.

Speaker B:

I mean, Drake is in a position to where he ain't got nothing to prove to nobody.

Speaker B:

All he got to do is entertain himself, his fans.

Speaker B:

That's his obligation.

Speaker A:

Now on the Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker A:

One thing I did like is he put me on to a lot of artists that I just never heard of before.

Speaker A:

Can you co sign just a few artists from your city that you feel like it slept on?

Speaker B:

Zoro, Samaritan, True Car.

Speaker B:

We got a Mexican group named Coyote.

Speaker B:

We got another dude named Eek.

Speaker B:

He got a song out right now called Ghetto featuring Card is moving.

Speaker B:

Go pull that up.

Speaker B:

It's crazy.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's a lot of them out here, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

I've been hustling some of them.

Speaker B:

I felt like, you know, lefty gunplay, you know, I think he's more of a character than an artist, but I believe if he got in the studio with the right people, you know, I like his drive.

Speaker B:

He think I don't like him for some reason because I betrothed me, but I like his drive, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And he has the look, he got the character, you know, he got the Persona.

Speaker B:

I just think he needs to go in the studio with the right team to perfect whatever his style of rap is gonna be, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Because you can't be a dude is here to two months and then gone tomorrow because people didn't got tired of your style.

Speaker B:

We kind of went through that with nephew and I'm hoping he bounced back and he was bigger than life, Roddy Rich, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You know, you take too much time off, right?

Speaker B:

And your sound filters out, you know, because music is a brainwashing.

Speaker B:

How many y'all didn't heard a song, bro?

Speaker B:

Like Lil Wayne, one of my favorite artists.

Speaker B:

I'll never forget when lollipop came out.

Speaker B:

I said, man, what kind of crazy ass song is this, right?

Speaker B:

I'm with them.

Speaker B:

I'm like, man, wheezy tripping.

Speaker B:

So every night we coming back from the studio late club, we coming back later.

Speaker B:

I remember one day after about two, about six weeks, I swear to God, it's about two in the morning.

Speaker B:

I'm moving up the highway.

Speaker B:

So come on.

Speaker B:

And here I go, a lollipop.

Speaker B:

I'm singing this.

Speaker B:

The.

Speaker B:

The radio hearing is so much.

Speaker B:

Then brainwash me, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So when you stop, when you stop feeding your fans, right, they gonna.

Speaker B:

They gonna shy away from you.

Speaker B:

That's what make our superstars superstars.

Speaker A:

Nah, you ain't lying about that, you know?

Speaker A:

Ain't lying.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

So now I got asked, it's like I think two days ago, right?

Speaker A:

You posted up and you said you got.

Speaker A:

You got a tape on, on our boy Gunner.

Speaker A:

And you said she was gonna drop it.

Speaker A:

So then, then it dropped and it was a yak Gotti.

Speaker A:

So tell me about that.

Speaker A:

What, what was that about?

Speaker B:

I mean, well, listen, I posted screenshot on my social media, right?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Now.

Speaker B:

I don't know about you, you know, I'm a funny guy.

Speaker B:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

I'm a funny guy.

Speaker B:

I do certain things sometimes.

Speaker A:

So it's calculated.

Speaker B:

Hold on.

Speaker B:

Let you.

Speaker B:

Can I say, I'm gonna be real.

Speaker B:

I'm a funny guy.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna use these two as a day.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Gotti was supposed to be the dude.

Speaker B:

That's official.

Speaker B:

That's thorough and all this type of.

Speaker B:

He keeping it solid.

Speaker B:

He ain't taking no plea.

Speaker B:

He's still in there fighting right now.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker B:

I got three hours of footage of yak telling like a.

Speaker B:

I'm looking at.

Speaker B:

It's delivered to me, hand delivered to me.

Speaker B:

Telling, telling, telling.

Speaker B:

I mean, you know, gunna is Jack and Yak is Gunnery.

Speaker B:

So you know, at the end of the day, sometimes you gotta wake people up to get their attention.

Speaker B:

I ain't lied to him because that is gonna.

Speaker B:

They both the same person.

Speaker B:

They rats.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

e been ratting for like since:

Speaker B:

Who may he'd been ratting and cooperating.

Speaker B:

You didn't hear what he said?

Speaker A:

He said, yeah.

Speaker A:

Cause you talking about Gunner.

Speaker B:

Well, gunna been riding too.

Speaker B:

Y'all been at it.

Speaker B:

Y'all just want to act like y'all didn't want to see it back then what he said on them steps and gave a description of who the shooter was because his cousin was in jail and all this type of y'all seen gonna rat on the little police show.

Speaker B:

Y'all just wanted to ignore it.

Speaker B:

You know, y'all youngsters is a little different.

Speaker B:

Y'all era look different, you know.

Speaker B:

And that's why I tell people the streets is over with because there's no penalty, there's no nothing happens.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And the rats is getting the money and the fortune in the thing.

Speaker B:

So when the sitting in there looking at 30 years and he on the street being a real but he broke and all the real saying yeah, them over there rat, I don't with them.

Speaker B:

You can't really go with them these days because they got a new rat.

Speaker B:

They got a new version of the rat which is called the killer ratio.

Speaker B:

You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Yeah, right.

Speaker B:

Jesus.

Speaker B:

Rats that chose to tell.

Speaker B:

But they was killers prior to right.

Speaker B:

So now you like well, do I keep it real and take this 30 and go to the penitentiary with three out of five yards and drop out rat yards anyway.

Speaker B:

Or do I rat?

Speaker B:

I can go hang with these popping bottles driving the road versus getting the women getting the money.

Speaker B:

It's over with.

Speaker B:

Streets is over with.

Speaker B:

Over with.

Speaker B:

There's only two type of in the street committing crimes right now.

Speaker B:

Those that's rat and you don't know about and those that's gonna end up rat if you doing illegal activity in the streets and them get caught and they looking at a stretch.

Speaker B:

Eight out of ten I'm gonna tell.

Speaker A:

So let me ask you this, right?

Speaker A:

We got young thug now free.

Speaker A:

If he goes back and does music with Gunna.

Speaker A:

Is that a violation on his behalf?

Speaker B:

That's business.

Speaker B:

I knew he was gonna do that.

Speaker B:

He's smart for doing that.

Speaker B:

But he set the record state.

Speaker B:

He got out and said whatever Wham say right?

Speaker B:

Wham is little baby, little baby Ain't, ain't, ain't came off that square if that saying Gunner was a rat, right?

Speaker B:

Little baby, use a rat.

Speaker B:

I ain't with you.

Speaker B:

So when thugger come out and say whatever wham say, right?

Speaker B:

And then he go put a tweet up and say.

Speaker B:

Or ig pose and say real plea deal Jack.

Speaker B:

See, he ain't mentioned nobody in his plea deal but himself.

Speaker B:

You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

That's a real plea deal.

Speaker B:

You don't mention others in your plea.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So you know.

Speaker B:

And then when he put up what he put up for about 10, 15 minutes and took it down, he let people know where he stand.

Speaker B:

But on the flip side, that's business.

Speaker B:

That's his artist.

Speaker B:

He signed to him.

Speaker B:

He gotta be able to communicate with him.

Speaker B:

That can't look like it's like him pampering with a witness.

Speaker B:

He gotta go on the books with the type of probate.

Speaker B:

Man got 35 years joint suspension over his head, bro.

Speaker A:

Should he have taken that deal?

Speaker B:

Hell yeah, they took that deal.

Speaker B:

Because at this point in time of your life, look, I hate to say it.

Speaker B:

That's the best 30 months of incarceration that could have happened for nephew.

Speaker B:

Because for 10 years, as we saw his team was telling only been cooperating.

Speaker B:

He didn't know.

Speaker B:

You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Could you imagine the things that might have occurred over those 30 months if he was free?

Speaker B:

That would have given him some even more ammunition.

Speaker B:

To a point that the case wouldn't have fell apart and he wouldn't have been offered his freedom.

Speaker B:

He didn't seen everybody turn on him but his management, Amina and his daddy and his immediate family, right?

Speaker B:

So at this point, he shouldn't have a problem.

Speaker B:

He should have been in that sale pace and saying, I ever get out.

Speaker B:

I ain't never with none of these in life.

Speaker B:

I ever get out of here.

Speaker B:

All that.

Speaker B:

Y'all can have all that.

Speaker B:

Everything I was doing you is telling.

Speaker B:

I'm getting these transcripts.

Speaker B:

It's a whole lot he probably can't talk about because then it is saying it was a threat on people's lives, you know, can you imagine the thug in red that we have never seen, man.

Speaker A:

Sir.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

So him getting out, right?

Speaker B:

With opportunity and him to raise his kids.

Speaker B:

Yeah, man, listen, he should.

Speaker B:

All he got to do is go to a state we can legally smoke weed.

Speaker B:

He shouldn't have no problem not hanging around those street having no discussions or even participating in anything.

Speaker A:

That's some now what is a future?

Speaker A:

I mean, what is a young Thug project do sales wise, first week money drop.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna say this dove been going two and a half years.

Speaker B:

I feel like he should have fed his fans something before Thanksgiving.

Speaker B:

I feel like that.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

It's a different era.

Speaker B:

You know, back in that time, you go to jail, you get out.

Speaker B:

It's the buzz there.

Speaker B:

It's this there, bro.

Speaker B:

If Ray J start date Jennifer Lopez next week, everybody gonna forget about Thug was in jail.

Speaker B:

The first thing happens in the industry and I think it's about to happen because I believe Puffy's gonna come home this week.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

They let Puff go out of that pen, out of that federal county jail.

Speaker B:

Nobody's going to talk about Thug anymore.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

I feel like you miss your boat.

Speaker B:

And with the industry being where it's at right now, it's down.

Speaker B:

Numbers is just down, bro.

Speaker B:

Uzi Burke, superstar, we can agree with that, right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Oh yeah.

Speaker B:

60,000.

Speaker B:

Not because his music is whack.

Speaker B:

The music is down.

Speaker B:

It's over saturated.

Speaker B:

People ain't paying attention.

Speaker B:

It's like me and you to blame.

Speaker B:

Cause if.

Speaker B:

If they on here listening to us, where they ain't at?

Speaker A:

Oh, that's good.

Speaker A:

We competing with this.

Speaker A:

We compete with the Screamers now that's.

Speaker B:

Crazy with us because and guess what?

Speaker B:

We giving the an hour, two, three hours of content.

Speaker B:

And then as soon as ours go off, anything similar to ours is populating and rolling right in front of them.

Speaker B:

I got clubhouse.

Speaker B:

Clubhouse.

Speaker B:

My side of clubhouse that we created.

Speaker B:

Me and the queen R B and my team over there, Beast and bumpy and dress, a B and a king, King guap and a host of the rest of them, you know, I mean, that we created over there.

Speaker B:

Lady killing, you know, it's 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Speaker B:

The haunted side where we create the hundreds out of clubhouse stays open.

Speaker B:

It been like that for three years.

Speaker B:

So when people was listening to us, they not listening to music.

Speaker B:

When people listening to you or they on the goddamn live or kick with academics for six hours, they ain't listening to music.

Speaker B:

Music ain't their primary entertainment no more, bro.

Speaker B:

dam and Wax Show, Brick Baby,:

Speaker B:

Joe Button, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

It's like every day loose cannon wakes up in the morning and goes live and people's like whack.

Speaker B:

I'm getting people sending it to me.

Speaker B:

You know, we working on the Honey show over there, we just fired it up a month ago and we doing our thing over there.

Speaker B:

So it's like, you know, they, they're competing with us, man.

Speaker A:

That's, that's real, man.

Speaker B:

Wait, wait.

Speaker B:

Then we got.

Speaker B:

Hold on.

Speaker B:

Then we got the big brother.

Speaker B:

Who's the big brothers?

Speaker B:

Let's go.

Speaker B:

Phase one, you got Vlad over there, subscription base, where he teasing you for a month, you know, unless you subscribe.

Speaker B:

Right, okay, right.

Speaker B:

Who's the bigger brother?

Speaker B:

We got Lemmy Plumber over there with Zeus.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker B:

Then you got shit like Tronics Dosh Network and you know, and all that is tv.

Speaker B:

All these subscription based things that got TV programs on.

Speaker B:

So once a person then jumped on the thing.

Speaker B:

Listen to Clubhouse tuned in to you overnight.

Speaker B:

Listen to academics.

Speaker B:

Went over here to Zeus to look at baddies and the brawl get beat up.

Speaker B:

Went to Dodge Network to watch the fight club.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

And then went to YouTube to listen to you, me, him, them, Charleston White.

Speaker B:

This person over here thinking, where's the streaming time for Spotify?

Speaker A:

Damn, that's real talk.

Speaker A:

Hey, when you look at it like that, we going platinum every week.

Speaker B:

If you got, if you got three people in the park selling weed and it's a hundred thousand dollars of money coming through there a week, that's good money.

Speaker B:

30,000 a piece, whatever.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Put 300 people in the park with the same amount of money coming every week, what happens?

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

It's only limited options at that point.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So, you know, that's what it is.

Speaker B:

It's a different day and age.

Speaker B:

The climate didn't change.

Speaker B:

So, Doug, I would like, I would like to see thug do a 150, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did a 50.

Speaker B:

And it wouldn't be because his music wasn't good.

Speaker B:

It's just the people ain't streaming, bro.

Speaker B:

They just, they not there.

Speaker B:

The crowd ain't there.

Speaker B:

When the crowd was there, woke up.

Speaker B:

Remember the whole talk?

Speaker B:

When the last time you heard somebody talking about playlists?

Speaker B:

When the last time you seen a post of Catch Me on Rap Caviar?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

It's been a minute, but you will wake up to a text and a link to say, yo, whack 100.

Speaker B:

Just got into it with such and such.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And the research starts because you know why now you gonna take that and do a reaction video to it, right?

Speaker A:

Everybody getting money, the ecosystem.

Speaker B:

There's too many things going on that's grabbing people's attention, right?

Speaker A:

Man, speaking of grabbing attention, now, one of the things that.

Speaker A:

Again, I watch all the content you got shout out to y'all.

Speaker A:

Y'all going crazy.

Speaker A:

But the.

Speaker A:

The Brick baby in the little dirt situation, he was breaking it down, and you was kind of saying, hey, man, he has something to do with that.

Speaker A:

He has something to do with the setup.

Speaker B:

No, we were saying it was.

Speaker B:

You know, we ain't gonna never say he has something to do with it.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Looking at.

Speaker B:

We was looking at.

Speaker B:

Out of the five people, five or six people, the fourth one was somebody from Los Angeles, a gang member who was dropping the dudes locations.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

And Brickman was pressing dude to check in.

Speaker B:

You know, dude was claiming Rolling 60s, right?

Speaker B:

Rondo.

Speaker B:

Rondo.

Speaker B:

So when we looking at it and we listening to Brick, because Brick, the one woke it up to the world, we all thought it was a bad drug deal.

Speaker B:

We thought it was a bad drug deal with some people from a whole nother race.

Speaker B:

Brick in February:

Speaker A:

I've seen that clip.

Speaker B:

Yeah, like what?

Speaker B:

You didn't know what he was talking about?

Speaker B:

And he says it.

Speaker B:

And then you watch Quando get right back to Savannah and drop his flag and say, he ain't from 60s no more.

Speaker B:

And then that's when start hearing about the calls or who he was talking to.

Speaker B:

And I just like about coming to your neck of the woods, and I'm locked in with you.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Whack.

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

What you doing?

Speaker B:

I think I'm gonna go to the mall, grab me some shoes, and we gonna shoot over here by the steak spot.

Speaker B:

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Speaker B:

And the police pull.

Speaker B:

You pull a in there and say, yeah, it was another phone that was letting them know that she was going here, here and there.

Speaker B:

And I know who I was talking to, right?

Speaker B:

So him dropping that flag kind of was like an eye opener.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And Brick just saying.

Speaker B:

Brick came out later on and said, well, so what if I was dropping it pin?

Speaker B:

So what?

Speaker B:

So Brick is on Worst Enemy.

Speaker B:

I don't know if he trolling right now or what he doing.

Speaker B:

It's a few other things we know that have come to light, but I'm gonna let it materialize once, you know, once it materializes and it's up, I'm gonna talk about it.

Speaker B:

I don't give a what you talking about.

Speaker B:

There's some things I know that haven't materialized.

Speaker B:

Ain't up.

Speaker B:

I won't say nothing.

Speaker B:

But as soon as they go up.

Speaker B:

And that's what it is.

Speaker B:

And it's paperwork and it's literature on it.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna talk about it.

Speaker B:

If it's up on the blogs, you can talk about it.

Speaker B:

They won't say nothing whack talk about it.

Speaker B:

They say I'm the police.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

And I was gonna ask you that.

Speaker A:

I was gonna ask you that, right?

Speaker A:

Because you being who you are, right, and being a podcaster, do you feel like you ever had to walk the line or do you just.

Speaker A:

You did because you give it up.

Speaker A:

You don't give a damn.

Speaker B:

Nobody's don't no call no dogs on me, don't take care of me, my family.

Speaker B:

I got my team, I got my crew, I got my loved ones, my business partners.

Speaker B:

So, you know, you got to remember a lot of this street is hypocritical.

Speaker B:

Don't you notice a lot of these, we find out they telling it'd be from 15 years ago.

Speaker B:

And for the last 15 years, this been pushing the envelope on what you can and can't do.

Speaker B:

And the whole time he been doing it.

Speaker B:

Now, now, do this math.

Speaker B:

He just got caught telling 15 years ago.

Speaker B:

You think he just started telling that day?

Speaker B:

So I tell all the kids, the streets, your neighborhood gang, anybody that's telling you to be from a gang is your enemy.

Speaker B:

Go to the police academy, go to the military, go to trade school, do not join the game.

Speaker B:

They gonna set you up, get you killed, lose years out your life.

Speaker B:

When you go to jail, your homies gonna go knock on your girl doe, tell them about the broad you with on the east side, show them text messages and try to hit your bra.

Speaker B:

They ain't gonna send you nothing.

Speaker B:

They ain't gonna do nothing for you.

Speaker B:

If a can't be your friend without you gang banging with him, then he ain't a friend you need to have.

Speaker B:

And that's coming from somebody that started gang banging at 12 years old.

Speaker B:

I was catching cases at 12 years old.

Speaker B:

I'd have been to juvenile hall.

Speaker B:

I'd have been the juvenile camp, youth authority, the penitentiaries, all that.

Speaker B:

And I've been home for the last 25 years.

Speaker B:

So I did it on both sides.

Speaker B:

And I'm telling you, ain't nothing for you in the gang but a lineup.

Speaker B:

Crip blood, Paru, Hoover, any type of gang that's a disruptive street gang that identifies with a color, a hand signal, and slang.

Speaker B:

Kids stay away from it.

Speaker B:

Those that didn't gang bang and, and went on about their life is way better than the so called og.

Speaker B:

You better than me and you better than all of them.

Speaker B:

Don't do it.

Speaker B:

This is why I don't take no orders.

Speaker B:

vised a gang initiation since:

Speaker B:

94, right.

Speaker B:

I don't allow it.

Speaker B:

My homeboys is dead.

Speaker B:

When I see their kids, I don't let them call me big homie.

Speaker B:

You can call me up, you can call me by my name.

Speaker B:

I don't, I don't do that, bro.

Speaker B:

It's just not cool.

Speaker B:

I learned from it.

Speaker B:

It's a dumb mistake.

Speaker B:

And I, I, I appreciate the kids not to do the same thing.

Speaker A:

That's what's up, man.

Speaker A:

Not for real.

Speaker A:

I feel like, you know, especially with the Internet now, it's a lot of people that are quote unquote, gangsters and it's like kind of glorified a little bit.

Speaker A:

What I'm saying, The imagery.

Speaker A:

The imagery, you know, when I think.

Speaker B:

Wait, what's the you talking about a urban gangster?

Speaker B:

Because the real imagery of a gangster was suit and tie and running businesses.

Speaker A:

Right, right, right.

Speaker B:

Urban gangster is a getting high, a going to kill a shoot a over there so that being a man is being a man.

Speaker B:

If a come knock on your door, threat to your household as a man, you're gonna do what a man's supposed to do.

Speaker B:

You ain't gotta be from no set or no gang.

Speaker B:

So what's gangster to me is taking care of your kids, sacrificing your time to make sure your family can eat.

Speaker B:

What's gangster to me is opening up doors for the less unfortunate and showing them the way.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

What's gangster to me is being in position when other people is out of position to help pull them up.

Speaker B:

It ain't gangster that you get high.

Speaker B:

You put tattoos all over your body or you over here just shoot the nigga because he from a gay.

Speaker B:

That ain't gangster.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker A:

But it's so glorified, it's crazy to me, man.

Speaker B:

Like, because it's glorified don't mean it's gangster.

Speaker A:

That's real.

Speaker B:

That's real.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So you know Birdman, he one of the most gangsters I know.

Speaker B:

30 years he's been up there, how many people he didn't help, how many families he didn't help, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You know, that's gangster.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Having your own Independent Company, 80, 20.

Speaker B:

Split your way, it might be 90, 10 by now.

Speaker B:

In a world where the people that run it don't look like us.

Speaker B:

That's gangster.

Speaker B:

That's super good.

Speaker A:

Hey, man.

Speaker A:

And speak.

Speaker A:

Speaking of that, right, One of your artists, Blueface, man, I heard that he got engaged or he got married.

Speaker A:

Is that.

Speaker A:

Is that a real thing?

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker A:

It looks like the mama online saying it.

Speaker B:

Who?

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I don't know what he called me.

Speaker B:

Who he say married?

Speaker B:

Who they say married?

Speaker A:

Christian.

Speaker A:

They say him and his, you know, Christian rock.

Speaker B:

Oh, I don't know.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't know about.

Speaker B:

I don't even know if Christian rock.

Speaker B:

The reason why I would, like, doubt it is because I don't think she can get approved for a visit right now because of what she going through.

Speaker B:

Like, hey, maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

Speaker B:

I don't know until it come out of his mouth or he tell me, you know, the media is the media.

Speaker B:

I see.

Speaker B:

I see things about me every day.

Speaker B:

I don't know where they came from, but, you know, click a view.

Speaker B:

That's what it is.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

Business today.

Speaker B:

He damn sure wasn't married in the county jail, so that would have to happen in the penitentiary.

Speaker B:

He hasn't been in the penitentiary, but for a couple months.

Speaker B:

He only been home about a month or two, so I don't know how she got approved for a visit that fast.

Speaker B:

They're gonna run a background check, so on and so forth.

Speaker B:

But I don't know, maybe he did, maybe that.

Speaker B:

I haven't heard that out of his mouth.

Speaker B:

And until he tells me, I don't really put no.

Speaker B:

Put no value to it.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker A:

What's the.

Speaker A:

What's the status on him coming back?

Speaker A:

You know, man, I feel like he was.

Speaker A:

When he was out.

Speaker A:

He had the Internet every day.

Speaker A:

It's like.

Speaker B:

I mean, Blueface is Blue Face.

Speaker B:

You can't count him out.

Speaker B:

You know, he'd be on June, July, you know, he gonna get back in the lab.

Speaker B:

We got contracts already locked in for television.

Speaker B:

You know, Blueface is Blueface, you know, he definitely gonna make a comeback.

Speaker B:

You know, Torn overseas and things of that nature.

Speaker B:

He.

Speaker B:

You definitely haven't heard the last of Blueface.

Speaker B:

Young man is talented.

Speaker B:

He's, you know, he's smart.

Speaker B:

He got a few significant others now that he has helped cross over into the limelight.

Speaker B:

So, you know, they can do things together.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

No, you definitely.

Speaker B:

Here's some more from Blue Face.

Speaker A:

That's the fact that's what's up now one of the things that's intriguing, right is this whole Diddy situation.

Speaker A:

I know you just spoke on it about him maybe getting out, but one of the things that they never really say anything is anything criminal that he's done.

Speaker A:

So it's like.

Speaker A:

It almost like the media is trying to pay him out to be a monster.

Speaker A:

What do you take from this whole.

Speaker B:

Don'T say nothing criminal.

Speaker B:

He's in the federal, federal detention center.

Speaker B:

They all less criminal.

Speaker A:

But what.

Speaker A:

But it's.

Speaker A:

It's like they only ever focus on the quote unquote freaky and all that.

Speaker A:

So is what they're trying to say.

Speaker B:

They focus it on the man act.

Speaker B:

This is a.

Speaker B:

w that was passed in the year:

Speaker B:

It has already took down people, movie stars, famous boxers.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

No matter what.

Speaker B:

You know, I think what happens is the fortune and the fame goes to our head and we forget what the laws are under any circumstances.

Speaker B:

The only place in the United States of America that can distribute a drug is a pharmacy.

Speaker B:

I don't care how big your mansion is, how much money you have, you can't distribute drugs in the party.

Speaker B:

If you do anything that happens there after that you responsible for.

Speaker B:

So a person come to your party, you distribute some drugs to them, they wake up and been a sexual orgy all night.

Speaker B:

Maybe they knew what was going on, maybe they didn't.

Speaker B:

But because you gave them drugs in your home, guess what?

Speaker B:

They can say I wasn't the same mind.

Speaker B:

Now you got the sex trafficking.

Speaker B:

You know, the sex trafficking is dictated that if you fly somebody out with the sole purpose of committing a sexual act, that's sex trafficking.

Speaker B:

Meaning when you get on the Instagram, damn, baby look good.

Speaker B:

What's happened?

Speaker B:

Your number.

Speaker B:

Dm.

Speaker B:

What's up baby?

Speaker B:

Where you from?

Speaker B:

I'm from New York, I'm in Atlanta.

Speaker B:

It's Thursday.

Speaker B:

We finna turn up all weekend.

Speaker B:

You looking good.

Speaker B:

I'ma let you know though, you know, I just want to though.

Speaker B:

But I got you.

Speaker B:

We get a sweet, you know saying I got a Rolls Royce, we at the club, we're gonna wild up.

Speaker B:

I'm with it.

Speaker B:

You sent her a plane ticket, she dried out and she want to scream on you.

Speaker B:

That's sex trafficking.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

And what it is, we're ignorant to the law.

Speaker B:

And law utilizes it when they.

Speaker B:

When they want to.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Female in just a.

Speaker B:

Nah, that's sex trafficking, bro.

Speaker B:

It's in the law now if they want to Use it on you.

Speaker B:

They use it on you.

Speaker B:

We got 30 plus states with the legal age of consent is 16 years old.

Speaker B:

And then we got about 12 or 13, that's 17.

Speaker B:

And the rest of 18, Nevada 16.

Speaker B:

New Jersey, 16.

Speaker B:

New York 17.

Speaker B:

New Hampshire, 16.

Speaker B:

Illinois is 17.

Speaker B:

Atlanta I believe is 16.

Speaker B:

But guess what?

Speaker B:

The federal mandate across the United States of America is 18.

Speaker B:

They don't give a damn what the state law is.

Speaker B:

Damn, they can book you.

Speaker B:

So it's a lack of education amongst our people of knowing what they can do and what they can't do, because they just.

Speaker B:

They ignorant to the law.

Speaker A:

So why do you think so many white executives get away with the same crimes?

Speaker B:

I mean, we don't know if they get away with it.

Speaker B:

We just probably don't hear about it.

Speaker B:

We heard about a lot of white execs doing the Me Too movement, going to jail.

Speaker B:

A lot of them went.

Speaker B:

You know, we don't know how many more than went because they just got to talk of our circles, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So I think it's just coming down to who you are and what your politics is.

Speaker B:

White, black or whatever, it don't matter.

Speaker B:

Diddy situation, you know, he thought he was bigger than the program.

Speaker B:

He played with them liquor people, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You know, and until you are in control of you, you understand what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

They always gonna be able to do something to you.

Speaker B:

Like, it's one dude that I can honestly say has always been in control of his program.

Speaker B:

If one dude, one dude that I can say that has been in control of this program, you know, that is Jay Z, he ain't in control of this program because he's, he's a face.

Speaker B:

Are we gonna start this?

Speaker B:

We're gonna say you only.

Speaker B:

We're gonna give you this.

Speaker B:

They can pull this plug when they want to.

Speaker B:

There's one dude that I can honestly say is in control of their program.

Speaker B:

It's gonna trip you out when I say it, because it's me saying it, but it's real.

Speaker B:

I'm just J.

Speaker B:

Prince.

Speaker B:

J.

Speaker B:

Prince is the only one I can say from our community, as black men coming from the streets, is in control of this program.

Speaker A:

How did, how did he get to that point and nobody else could do that?

Speaker B:

I think he got to that point by utilizing their program and taking that funding and create his own program, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You know, he started doing things that wasn't so popular.

Speaker B:

That wasn't.

Speaker B:

It didn't come with the glitz and the glam, you know, he went into cattle in the hay, you know what I'm saying, And then took that and let me go do this and let me go do that.

Speaker B:

You know, the things he's doing is not the popular things to do, but it put him in the position of a real boss to where he ain't got to report to nobody and can't nobody turn his lights off, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

That's real.

Speaker A:

That's deep.

Speaker A:

So let me ask you this then.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And this is me just look, you know, outside looking in, right?

Speaker A:

When you see a bunch of successful black millionaires doing their thing, why is it that y'all can't get along?

Speaker A:

Like, you know, you see Whack and J.

Speaker A:

Prince online bickering, but why isn't it more so like, hey, man, let's all figure out how to get.

Speaker B:

I don't have a direct problem with J.

Speaker B:

Prince.

Speaker B:

I just got caught in the middle of a storm, you know, me being asked to do something, he simply being a protector of an elderly black woman, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

J.

Speaker B:

Prince disposition is I'm in his business, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

My disposition is the phone call I got put me in her business.

Speaker B:

Now, I've heard business happen to be your business then so.

Speaker B:

So be it.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

I'm just one.

Speaker B:

I'm just making sure she's allowed to do the business the way she wants to do it and she's.

Speaker B:

She's not forced to do certain things.

Speaker B:

So, you know, and it was a decision I had to make.

Speaker B:

You know, I get a call from certain people, then I'm almost stand.

Speaker B:

I'm a stand up for.

Speaker B:

I ain't made a dime off of it.

Speaker B:

You know, I ain't forced nobody into a contract.

Speaker B:

I haven't, you know, all I did was inherit was a.

Speaker B:

Was an enemy, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker B:

So it ain't that we can't do business together.

Speaker B:

It's just that we have a history of doing bad business sometimes and selfish business sometime.

Speaker B:

I don't even call it bad.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna call it selfish business.

Speaker B:

We got a history of doing selfish business.

Speaker B:

What gets in the way of future business, you know, you'll never hear me say, not J.

Speaker B:

Prince or who he is as a businessman, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Never.

Speaker B:

Because, you know, you gotta respect it and salute it.

Speaker B:

And for me to do that would be Trying to take the eyes of detention off from our youth that should be watching a guy like that, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I'm never a hater.

Speaker B:

No way.

Speaker B:

Now we got an issue about that.

Speaker B:

We got issue about that.

Speaker B:

That ain't got nothing to do with this, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So, you know, we got a lot of people to Michael Jordan, the Maddie Johnson, Shaquille O'Neal, to LeBron James.

Speaker B:

And I, I don't think they don't support and do things.

Speaker B:

I just think they support and do the things that they want to do, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I mean, we don't know what it is that they do.

Speaker B:

Maybe they're following the guidance of their people that's over their business.

Speaker B:

And a lot of them people don't look like us, so a lot of them are directing them to do things in spaces that we may not know about, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But it may be today benefit of why they doing these things to do continued business with others.

Speaker B:

So, you know, it's a lot of politics wrapped up in that.

Speaker B:

You know, I can't tell nobody what to do, how to do.

Speaker B:

Do I think we can come together as black people and have our own bank?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But do I think because it's a black owned bank, our black people still won't skip out on a bill?

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

You know, either you're gonna operate in America as an American or you gonna say, I'm gonna go help these people who eventually turn around and make you regret doing those things.

Speaker B:

So, you know, it's give and take, man.

Speaker A:

That's deep, man.

Speaker A:

Because, you know, like I, you always hear people say, man, the white man is pushing this agenda, they're pushing this agenda.

Speaker A:

But then I'll be sitting here like, man, it's a lot of black people with money.

Speaker A:

Why we can't push our own agenda?

Speaker A:

What is this that's stopping us from truly getting to that point to where it's like we control our own narrative.

Speaker A:

We can't blame no white person.

Speaker A:

It's just us versus us.

Speaker A:

Like what's stopping us from real.

Speaker B:

I'm not, I'm not pro black.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker B:

I'm American.

Speaker B:

I'm for my black people.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

But you're not gonna catch me over here.

Speaker B:

Focus on what could the blacks do to come together.

Speaker B:

I ain't got enough time in my life, bro, to play the Martin Luther King game, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

And Martin fought for, died at 39, left his beautiful wife and Kids behind fighting for desegregation.

Speaker B:

What we do, turn around and segregate our own self blood.

Speaker B:

They can't come to school over here cuz he can't be in that part.

Speaker B:

So bro, I'm moving in this world for the reasons I'm moving in it.

Speaker B:

If there's a football field in every 10 year yards, it's a different race of babies stacked on the field.

Speaker B:

I'm going to tip throw through that whole field with the same precaution.

Speaker B:

I'm not going to get to one area and start running faster.

Speaker B:

Everybody, everybody matters to me.

Speaker B:

You know, I got business partners as Jewish and Russian and Armenian, Persian, Bahrainian, black, white, you know, I got business partners, you know, from all walks of life.

Speaker B:

So, you know, I'm not caught up on us.

Speaker B:

I'm caught up on the us part that when it comes to, when you see us take some time and to help and, and, and have a word, you know, store bro.

Speaker B:

And I see one of my people, sister with a couple kids in the front, I'm gonna ask them, are you hungry?

Speaker B:

I'm definitely gonna do that.

Speaker B:

And I'm gonna feed them people, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Because they my people, they look like me, but you know, when I get off the freeway and if it's an elderly white man, I'm gonna drop the window, give him some too.

Speaker B:

So I just think the us factor, when it comes to us, it always bites us in the ass.

Speaker B:

Right, right.

Speaker B:

We all kind of discouraged and we just kind of like, well let me do what I got to do for me, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Now, now I gotta hit you with some quick hits, man, and just get your thoughts on some of these, right?

Speaker A:

Little dirt man.

Speaker A:

Do you think he actually stands a chance fighting this case?

Speaker A:

If so, why?

Speaker B:

I think the biggest threat is his people wearing wiretaps.

Speaker B:

I think the wiretaps gonna lead to some more superseding indictments.

Speaker B:

I think the lyrics of his song is gonna bite him in the ass because this is kind of descriptive.

Speaker B:

I hope he comes out of it.

Speaker B:

Little Dirk a good dude.

Speaker B:

I know him personally.

Speaker B:

I watched him come up, fall on his face, come back up.

Speaker B:

But the history of them people, the feds, they really don't really tap you on the shoulder.

Speaker B:

This ain't gonna be no young thug where things start falling apart.

Speaker B:

Ain't gonna be that.

Speaker B:

If they offered dirt 20 years a day, I would tell him, take it, don't even think about it.

Speaker B:

Damn, he looking at life, bro.

Speaker B:

Damn.

Speaker B:

His charge Carry a life sentence.

Speaker B:

And you got multiple players.

Speaker B:

Two of them, they disclose and is talking.

Speaker B:

That's just the two.

Speaker B:

You know how this gonna go?

Speaker B:

Yeah, he did it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I did it because he told me to.

Speaker B:

Yeah, he told me.

Speaker B:

He.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Didn't work, man say, yeah, so, you know.

Speaker B:

Hey, man, listen.

Speaker B:

Hey, listen.

Speaker B:

Everything ain't always what it seemed, bro.

Speaker A:

How much.

Speaker A:

How much is something like fighting that type of case cost?

Speaker B:

See, it's tricky because if it was just him, and I'll tell you, he probably got like a 5.10 million dollar bill coming because thugs probably spent that on himself fighting his last case.

Speaker B:

But because Dirk knows he has to make sure others are straight with they legal, he probably gonna have about a 15 million dollar tab over because, you know, others get in there and they like, you gonna take this deal, but you got to give us this.

Speaker B:

He ain't giving a.

Speaker B:

And they've been like, yo, man, tell me I need attorney, man.

Speaker B:

I ain't got it, man.

Speaker B:

The Nick ain't sending no help.

Speaker B:

He might be prone to go ahead on and take that deal, do some talking, which ultimately leads him to, you know, a lifetime.

Speaker B:

So 10, 15 million dollar tab for sure.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker A:

So damn, 15 million is crazy, bro.

Speaker A:

Now I got another one.

Speaker B:

I'm an investigator.

Speaker B:

Listen, you got.

Speaker B:

Listen, you got private investigators.

Speaker B:

You probably hired a law firm, but ain't in California, so he's flying to and from, right?

Speaker B:

They charge 500 an hour for a phone call with a mandatory hour.

Speaker B:

So if it's 10 minutes, it don't matter.

Speaker B:

And Lord, Lord knows, they filed another case in Chicago and filed another case over here in Atlanta.

Speaker B:

God damn.

Speaker B:

You know, and then you got six people.

Speaker B:

As of now, you get.

Speaker B:

You get word, three more just got picked up.

Speaker B:

One.

Speaker B:

I'm telling FOMO got picked up three of these.

Speaker B:

Know they were shooters and did some, man, you got to send them legal asap.

Speaker B:

Legal and put 10,000 on his books quick.

Speaker A:

Yeah, man, that's ugly right there.

Speaker A:

Oh, well, we're gonna keep dirking our prayers, man, for sure.

Speaker A:

Big Meech.

Speaker A:

So now he's just been released.

Speaker A:

What should he be doing to get back in the mix?

Speaker B:

You know, you didn't sit down with 50.

Speaker B:

You know, he got a part two:

Speaker B:

He went to fighting the case, he discovered what he went through in jail and transitioning with son growing up.

Speaker B:

Transitioning his son and what he doing now.

Speaker B:

And him coming home now, that's a whole nother series and then you could turn around and do the overall BMF movie and, you know, and then, you know, get involved in stocks and construction.

Speaker B:

Dude.

Speaker B:

57, 58 years old.

Speaker B:

Any of these think big meets out.

Speaker B:

He finna get the soccer game.

Speaker B:

Man, you out your damn mind.

Speaker B:

He ain't got another 19 in him.

Speaker B:

You know, that's what I would do.

Speaker B:

TV Land and, you know, roll off into something else.

Speaker B:

Some construction, some states, stocks, day trade.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

You want to open up a couple strip malls, you know, he can go get him a couple hundred million right now so that I believe that's what he need to do.

Speaker B:

Now.

Speaker A:

That's fat.

Speaker A:

That's crazy.

Speaker A:

Oh, because it's like when you're making that type of money back then and you come back and you went, you know, you've done time.

Speaker A:

So, like, when you come back, what do you think his mindset is?

Speaker A:

What do you think he's looking at when he sees this world?

Speaker B:

He's like, he's in a good space though, bro.

Speaker B:

He came back.

Speaker B:

He came back with his name bigger than ever.

Speaker A:

That's true.

Speaker B:

That nigga's name ain't never been this big.

Speaker B:

People keep calling.

Speaker B:

Let me put this.

Speaker B:

His name a.

Speaker B:

His name ain't never been this big.

Speaker B:

His name ain't never been this big.

Speaker B:

Meech was a regional guy and a few rap songs that worldwide everywhere because of the series.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

So, you know, take advantage of those opportunities.

Speaker B:

Staying that night.

Speaker B:

Bro, they only running it up till when he got caught.

Speaker B:

Right, Right.

Speaker B:

He got a whole 19 years of writing.

Speaker B:

They can do what you learned when you got caught, what you went through, who did what.

Speaker B:

What happened with you and your brother.

Speaker B:

The separation of that.

Speaker B:

Who caught what time, who stayed down, who didn't.

Speaker B:

What's this about this Cuffy dude, How did that.

Speaker B:

What's that story?

Speaker B:

This.

Speaker B:

This chick that was Blue Da Vinci's bra that turned out to be yours.

Speaker B:

That's a cooperating informant.

Speaker B:

Right now to this day, you still with.

Speaker B:

It's a whole lot of things you could talk about.

Speaker A:

So let me ask you this, because, you know, it was online about some guy from Kansas City mentioning something about Meech Toad now.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Cody, line coffee up.

Speaker B:

We got to work.

Speaker A:

Oh, okay, so that's.

Speaker A:

That's a fact.

Speaker B:

We got to work.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, so is it.

Speaker A:

Is it selective politician?

Speaker A:

Are people just gonna let you slide on the radio?

Speaker B:

Definitely.

Speaker B:

Selective politic can happen everywhere.

Speaker B:

That's why I tell you the streets is a myth.

Speaker B:

Troy advert voice.

Speaker B:

It's a myth.

Speaker B:

And every man should do exactly what they want to do.

Speaker B:

I'ma slow that down.

Speaker B:

Every man should do exactly what they want to do.

Speaker B:

Do it your way.

Speaker B:

Because the same man that's telling you you can't do it that way, when it's his turn, he gonna do it his way.

Speaker B:

That's a fact.

Speaker A:

That's great, man.

Speaker B:

Bro, I didn't watch every.

Speaker B:

That's what it is.

Speaker A:

What's one of the wildest lessons you feel like you've learned Just.

Speaker A:

Just coming up, going through the streets, doing the pike.

Speaker A:

What's one of the wildest lessons you feel like you've learned that people probably haven't learned yet?

Speaker B:

Only trusted people that trust in you.

Speaker B:

If this individual loses nothing with your loss, don't trust him.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker A:

How did you learn that?

Speaker B:

By trusting people that didn't trusted me.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

You know, the big you, that's how me and big you fell out.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

It was a one sided thing.

Speaker B:

We was looking out for the brother, keeping him on his feet, introducing the people and things in his industry and, you know, trying to give him a voice outside of the streets.

Speaker B:

The more you did for the.

Speaker B:

The more he wanted to be you.

Speaker B:

So what they do, they start plotting and planning on how to get rid of you because they think they know what you do.

Speaker B:

So if you out the way, they can step in there.

Speaker B:

It's crazy.

Speaker A:

This is treacherous out here, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, how do you feel like when you're navigating, you know, in the industry full of piranhas, bro, how do you end up latching on to people that can help you out?

Speaker A:

Like, you know, there's a lot of people in position that are trying to, you know, climb their way through this.

Speaker A:

Like we independent, right?

Speaker A:

And we lean on where we just lean on ourselves.

Speaker A:

And then you try to meet people and get snaked out or, you know, people don't keep it real.

Speaker A:

How do you figure out who you, you know, who's keeping it real?

Speaker A:

Who's real, who you can work with, who you can't.

Speaker B:

I want you to look at it like this, brother.

Speaker B:

There's a big swimming pool full of pennies over there, right?

Speaker B:

And one of them pennies is worth something.

Speaker B:

One of them worth something.

Speaker B:

One of them pennies, the age of it, the year of it.

Speaker B:

One of them pennies is worth something, right?

Speaker B:

You go, you know that you gonna go to that swimming pool and you're gonna start sifting through those pennies every day, right?

Speaker B:

Because you Know they're telling you it's a penny in that pool is worth something.

Speaker B:

The world is the big swimming pool.

Speaker B:

The people in the world of pennies don't stop looking.

Speaker B:

You gotta keep looking.

Speaker B:

You gotta keep rubbing shoulders.

Speaker B:

You gotta keep calling numbers, you gotta keep reaching because that's the only way you stay in the race.

Speaker B:

The minute you sideline yourself, you could never finish the race.

Speaker B:

And your race ain't contingent upon the dude on the side of you, your race is over.

Speaker B:

When that body drop and they calculate what you did and didn't do.

Speaker B:

As long as you got life and able body enabled mind, keep looking, keep researching, keep calling.

Speaker B:

Even if it's the wildest thought in the world, right, don't disregard it.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I don't have people see me in places and just like get through security, walk through.

Speaker B:

Yo, Whack.

Speaker B:

What's up, bro?

Speaker B:

Y'all know you don't know me.

Speaker B:

Here come the security grabbing him.

Speaker B:

Hold on, bro, could I do for you, man?

Speaker B:

I'm this, this, this, this, that, and this, this, this, this, that.

Speaker B:

If dude would have looked at the situation, right, and said, nah, I can't get to him, he wouldn't have never got to me.

Speaker B:

He left with a phone number.

Speaker B:

He left with a phone number to contact.

Speaker B:

And eventually, you know, whatever he was trying to get out of me, he got.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

But guess what?

Speaker B:

He stayed in the race, right?

Speaker A:

That's a real.

Speaker A:

That's a real game right there.

Speaker B:

Staying in the race.

Speaker A:

That's some real game.

Speaker B:

When I did my first album deal on Game, right, Right.

Speaker B:

I flew up to New York, walked in the office, told him, this is what I had, this what I wanted.

Speaker B:

Can we do business?

Speaker B:

Dude said, we were supposed to close a deal tomorrow with somebody else, but we gonna roll the dice.

Speaker B:

It's a better situation now.

Speaker B:

While I was sitting in Miami contemplating should I go do this?

Speaker B:

I told myself three times, man, you can't.

Speaker B:

You ain't got no.

Speaker B:

You ain't got no meeting.

Speaker B:

Said, you can't just walk in here like that.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

He's gonna take you two, three weeks to get a meeting with Alan Grumblack.

Speaker B:

I flew up there, walked in, security told me I walked.

Speaker B:

I said, listen, I'm not on the thing, but he's expecting me.

Speaker B:

Can you call?

Speaker B:

Ask Alan Grumblack.

Speaker B:

He told me to call you guys when I got down here and call up because I'm not registered in your System.

Speaker B:

Boom.

Speaker B:

I'm lying like a.

Speaker B:

But when he called Alan, he said who?

Speaker B:

He said, wax down here.

Speaker B:

Guy named Whack.

Speaker B:

Ray J's manager.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, let him up.

Speaker B:

Blind flight.

Speaker B:

I think I'm capping.

Speaker B:

I'm in the race.

Speaker B:

I'm reaching.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I got to the desk and security looked like me.

Speaker B:

Probably would have been something else.

Speaker B:

He probably would have been like, hey, man, get out of here before we call nypd.

Speaker B:

But I didn't check myself out.

Speaker B:

The race from that six, seven, eight hour albums later.

Speaker B:

Stay in the race, bro.

Speaker B:

Keep reaching.

Speaker B:

Don't stop dreaming.

Speaker A:

That's hard, bro.

Speaker B:

Don't tell yourself it's impossible.

Speaker B:

You think.

Speaker B:

You think they was telling the Wright brothers when they talking about we gonna make a plane fly or, you know, the person that invented electricity or somebody that told somebody, I'm gonna make a car go 200 miles per hour.

Speaker B:

They got a jet now, get you to London in an hour from New York.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You know, don't let nobody tell you which you got in your mind.

Speaker B:

Can't be done.

Speaker B:

It's your mind.

Speaker B:

If you can think about it, you can see it, you can achieve it, man.

Speaker A:

That.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That's lit, bro.

Speaker A:

So with, you know, with that being said, right, I know you were down here and you were pushing your.

Speaker A:

Your label.

Speaker A:

Is that still.

Speaker A:

Are you still having the artists on the label?

Speaker A:

Who do you have on your label?

Speaker A:

Are you pushing any artists right now?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

True Car still there.

Speaker A:

Not a True Car.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Car still with me right now.

Speaker B:

True Car got a song out with the.

Speaker B:

With the.

Speaker B:

With the youngster Iki called Ghetto.

Speaker B:

Check that out.

Speaker B:

You spelled his name E.

Speaker B:

K, E.

Speaker B:

I just did a situation with them, but other than that, I'm kind of like, I'm going where it's flowing because the music industry is kind of like, you know, I'm looking at working.

Speaker B:

I'm working with a guy named Black Montana out of Alabama.

Speaker B:

He got.

Speaker B:

He got like country, rap.

Speaker B:

It's different.

Speaker B:

A black dude from the street, buddy.

Speaker B:

Like, he's like some Nas X but without the rainbow, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So, you know, me and Loose Cannon doing a lot of business.

Speaker B:

We just signed a deal over here with Dash Network, Dash Unlock.

Speaker B:

So we moving towards that subscription base.

Speaker B:

And then I've been working on my diaper company.

Speaker B:

Diaper company gonna launch incredible stuff, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, incredible diapers.

Speaker B:

NCR diple diapers up on Amazon.

Speaker B:

Incrediblediapers.com.

Speaker B:

i got deals closing in Africa, three different locations that way.

Speaker B:

We're doing something out here in Barbados.

Speaker B:

We'll be building manufacturing facilities.

Speaker B:

We're in talks with Walmart.

Speaker B:

So you know, I'm kind of like, I'm like an octopus right now.

Speaker B:

We got blueprints being done.

Speaker B:

We're building up tiny home communities, haunted home communities, affordable rent control communities will be coming in 20 and 30% under what the areas rent is.

Speaker B:

You know this.

Speaker B:

We got a problem going on with this homelessness, it's a problem.

Speaker B:

Medical facilities.

Speaker B:

I just signed a contract to that actually Friday.

Speaker B:

So, you know, I'm dipping and dabbing everywhere.

Speaker B:

I'm just preparing myself to where one thing don't work.

Speaker B:

I got something else working for me, man.

Speaker A:

And that's, that's a good question, right?

Speaker A:

Like, do you think when you look at the music industry as a whole going forward, do you think that these artists are going to have to start streaming, are going to have to find new creative ways to get money?

Speaker B:

Oh yeah, the get rich quick overnight, the indie label thing, that's always.

Speaker B:

Because ain't nobody gonna give you 2, 3, 4, 5 million and you streaming 30, 20, 30,000 the first week.

Speaker B:

Holding budgets is gonna be broke down.

Speaker B:

When the budget is broke down, that means the studio gotta break it down.

Speaker B:

Deposits.

Speaker B:

So the beast gotta break it down.

Speaker B:

The dodge and shoot the videos gotta break it down.

Speaker B:

Mixing and mashing gotta break it down.

Speaker B:

Everybody got it cut back.

Speaker B:

So when a dude was getting a million dollar budget, he and a dog fight to give 400,000, 300,000.

Speaker B:

So you can't put together a project paying the same rates that you did when everybody was charging max rate because you had a two million dollar budget.

Speaker B:

Million dollar budget.

Speaker B:

So then what happens?

Speaker B:

Okay, 400,000.

Speaker B:

Come now they give you advance for a hundred thousand.

Speaker B:

Before you would have got 750, man, you know, now the clubs is, man, we got 5,000 for you.

Speaker B:

People ain't buying bottles like that.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, right, right, right.

Speaker B:

Cut back.

Speaker B:

You know, that's why a lot of us is in different spaces doing different things.

Speaker A:

And you kind of hit the jackpot being that you're a streamer now.

Speaker A:

Like you're.

Speaker A:

The possibilities are endless for you.

Speaker A:

So for you, is that kind of a weird thing that you might actually start making more than your artists just off a streamer.

Speaker A:

Does that put you in a weird.

Speaker B:

Position like, because y'all gotta remember Game is a catalog artist.

Speaker B:

Oh yeah, game.

Speaker B:

Game streams 500 to 700,000 times a day, every day, gang.

Speaker B:

Gonna go to Europe, he can do 50, 60 shows a year, do his festivals, he good, you know, and then Game is a gamer so you know, he can't cleans up on the video game situations.

Speaker B:

Blue Face is TV and his music.

Speaker B:

So, you know, my artists all do all right.

Speaker B:

I am in a lane that's different than them, like a blogger, podcast, slash, whatever.

Speaker B:

But I don't know how long I'm gonna be over there.

Speaker B:

anuary and January, let's say:

Speaker B:

So, you know, I'll probably look to only be in the States four, five months, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So that may pull me back or it may say, you know what, why keep it going.

Speaker B:

Put Decameron you over there, they want to see that too.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like so right, you know, I'm looking to build a village.

Speaker B:

Talking to loose cannon to 600, talking to my queen R B.

Speaker B:

And I was like, let's grab some of these podcasters that's serious about it, put them up under the umbrella of the things we just signed on to Chrome and just do the business.

Speaker B:

Be kind of like a label to the up and coming podcasters, you know, you know, we putting that together.

Speaker B:

We got a big situation we putting together to bring people on.

Speaker B:

Cast is making a little money, give them a big check up front.

Speaker B:

And then after they didn't recoup 60, give them a bigger check, but plug into them, help them grow their page.

Speaker B:

So we looking to do that as well.

Speaker B:

So I may end up falling into that lane of it.

Speaker B:

I definitely have to do something with it because I, I've grown it.

Speaker B:

But I know what I can't do.

Speaker B:

I can't be academics.

Speaker B:

You're like hands on all day, every day, right?

Speaker B:

Because of my business endeavors.

Speaker B:

But I can be a QCP or a birdman to this, to where I'm like, listen, come get this bag.

Speaker B:

We're gonna do this.

Speaker B:

We providing these services.

Speaker B:

Let's make you bigger.

Speaker B:

Give me a little cut.

Speaker B:

I get 20 people under me and I'm seeing that little cut it add up.

Speaker B:

I'm still there.

Speaker A:

Yes, sir.

Speaker B:

So yeah, we putting it together and I'll know by, by the end of the year exactly what I'm gonna be doing.

Speaker B:

But I mean, it's cool, I can help people, you know, it opens up doors and it's something new.

Speaker B:

So, you know, my.

Speaker B:

My artists haven't had a problem with it.

Speaker B:

A lot of things I don't do, people call me like, yo, man, come host the club.

Speaker B:

I don't do that because then it starts to look like I'm.

Speaker B:

I'm in their lane.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

So I don't do certain things.

Speaker B:

I intentionally just.

Speaker B:

I don't do.

Speaker B:

I get a lot of calls to do that, but it's like that's what my artists do.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So got.

Speaker A:

You got.

Speaker A:

So you do draw a line.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I definitely know my place.

Speaker A:

All right, before we get out of here, Kendrick versus Lil Wayne.

Speaker A:

If you would have put your money.

Speaker A:

If they do go to.

Speaker A:

If they do battle just on some.

Speaker B:

Rap battles right now, I don't know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Right now, I suggest Wayne don't do that with Kendrick right now.

Speaker B:

Kendrick in his bag.

Speaker B:

And I know Kendrick.

Speaker B:

I know he's from.

Speaker B:

I know his mindset.

Speaker B:

I know Wayne.

Speaker B:

I know where he from.

Speaker B:

And I don't think Wayne's mindset is on rat beef.

Speaker B:

I think if Kendrick came out with a song and just distinguish, he might respond.

Speaker B:

I don't think Wayne's mindset is on rap beat.

Speaker B:

Kendrick is all the way on that right now.

Speaker B:

Kendrick's on that.

Speaker B:

He's in that bag.

Speaker B:

And I think if it happened right now, I will put my money on Kendrick.

Speaker B:

Will it be a walk in the park?

Speaker B:

No, Wayne is Wayne it.

Speaker B:

Wayne waited until after super bowl and diss that in summertime, then I think I might have to roll with the Wayne side.

Speaker B:

But right now, if you go poking that bear, Kendrick ain't to be played with right now.

Speaker B:

I'd leave him alone.

Speaker B:

He.

Speaker B:

He's on that right now, right?

Speaker B:

It seemed like he's on that.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't advise Drake to go back at him.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't advise nobody let that dude do his walk.

Speaker B:

Let him walk down the street, whistleblow, peep and just be cool.

Speaker B:

He ain't playing right now, and he gonna destroy something.

Speaker B:

And I wouldn't even give Kendrick the opportunity to take that down.

Speaker B:

Can you imagine where that catapults Kendrick and he didn't cook that Drake and Wayne in the same year.

Speaker B:

He's the great.

Speaker B:

I would.

Speaker B:

I would.

Speaker B:

Some.

Speaker B:

I eliminate the possibility of it happening.

Speaker B:

I would.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I wouldn't even.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't even give him a shot at that title.

Speaker A:

Right, Right.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

No, you know what?

Speaker B:

I'm saying I honestly thought that he.

Speaker A:

Might bring him out to the Super Bowl.

Speaker A:

I honestly thought that might have happened.

Speaker B:

But now, and I think if he would have made a call, it would have happened.

Speaker B:

But before the fall come to pride, man.

Speaker B:

You know, I understand why Wayne feeling the way he's feeling, but Wayne gotta understand NFL made that decision, right?

Speaker B:

The people made that decision.

Speaker B:

Kendrick hot as a firecracker, coming off one of the biggest rap battles we've seen in a while, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Then you gotta go to performance.

Speaker B:

I've been hearing a lot of people question Wayne's performance, I guess over the last time they seen him perform.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

You know, the NFL looking at that.

Speaker B:

Then I seen that Wayne had a show October, November in New Orleans.

Speaker B:

Maybe they looked at that as well.

Speaker B:

You know, if they had a calling, would he get canceled?

Speaker B:

I'm pretty sure.

Speaker B:

But, you know, a lot of factors in there, but end of the day, you know, I'm not frowning on Kendrick doing Super bowl in New Orleans.

Speaker B:

What I'd like to see Wayne do.

Speaker B:

I love to see Wayne do away any.

Speaker B:

Been around forever.

Speaker B:

Been a great accomplishment for him in his backyard.

Speaker B:

Will Wayne eventually get a Super Bowl?

Speaker B:

I believe so.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't be shocked if Wayne was in California next year at the super bowl performing.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't be shocked if we saw that.

Speaker B:

But in the meantime, I think everybody should dishonor, respect the next person, salute the next person, whether it was for you or not.

Speaker B:

And you know, it wasn't no ill intentions coming from that person, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Handle it.

Speaker B:

You know, handle it with some.

Speaker B:

Handle it with some.

Speaker B:

With some taste, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Handle it with some.

Speaker B:

With some respect.

Speaker B:

And then the next person ain't gonna feel no kind of way, but shout out to Ken.

Speaker B:

Well, he earned it, you know, it is what it is, you know, And I know K.

Speaker B:

I knew the hype man.

Speaker B:

I'm the first to put him on New York radio, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I'm the first dude put him on the stage in New York, you know, behind Papua.

Speaker B:

When I took the mic and handed it to him, shout out To Top Dog, TDE2 Ts the whole team over there, right?

Speaker B:

So I got a long history with him.

Speaker B:

So seeing him, where he come from, where he at now, I can't do nothing but salute, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

If his opportunities there, he's supposed to.

Speaker A:

Take it now for real.

Speaker A:

And he hot, man.

Speaker A:

He got.

Speaker A:

He got the West Going crazy right now, man.

Speaker A:

I'm loving everything coming out the west for sure.

Speaker B:

Man.

Speaker A:

As far as anything that you got, I know you got your shows.

Speaker A:

Anything you want to promote.

Speaker B:

Credible diapers cop on Amazon, the honey show on YouTube, go subscribe.

Speaker B:

Always promote my queen.

Speaker B:

R B R underscore A, N underscore B.

Speaker B:

Follow her on Instagram and the hundred side of Clubhouse.

Speaker B:

Join Clubhouse.

Speaker B:

Come followers.

Speaker B:

Join the conversation.

Speaker B:

And anything, anybody out there that's doing anything, man, follow them.

Speaker B:

My man Loose Cannon Sharice and Loose Sharice Mills.

Speaker B:

Go follow that YouTube channel.

Speaker B:

Follow it's Loose Cannon on Instagram and follow Christopher Lovejoy spelled just like it sounds on Instagram, which is 600.

Speaker B:

Follow his YouTube 600.

Speaker B:

Other than that, man, you know, everybody stay safe, enjoy the holidays.

Speaker B:

You know, everybody go ahead on accept the fact you're gonna break that diet on turkey day.

Speaker B:

I hope you know, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker B:

Keep the kids safe.

Speaker B:

Keep the kids safe.

Speaker B:

I'm here for you.

Speaker B:

You got any questions or something, man, don't, you know, feel free to give me a call, man, and you know, we get to it.

Speaker A:

No, no doubt, man.

Speaker A:

No doubt.

Speaker A:

And before we leave out of here, I just want you to leave the up and coming people that are doing podcasts with just one gym that they should be working towards when it comes to something.

Speaker B:

When you, when you get discouraged with what you're doing, don't be scared to find an alter ego.

Speaker B:

Maybe who you are is not who they want to hear.

Speaker B:

So maybe you may have to pull a Denzel and become a character.

Speaker B:

Be myself.

Speaker B:

I got lucky.

Speaker B:

I could just be me.

Speaker B:

People like to me.

Speaker B:

But when you get discouraged, look over there at that subscription and remember at one point in time it says 0.

Speaker B:

So if it says 38, 38 more when it had and in the week it says 58, that means you're doing something right.

Speaker B:

Just keep adding to your creativity of what you're doing, but don't stop and don't give up.

Speaker A:

Hey, now, that's what's up.

Speaker A:

Word to the wisdom, man.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker A:

My boy, I appreciate you.

Speaker A:

I appreciate.

Speaker A:

Yeah, ask me something.

Speaker A:

What's up?

Speaker B:

Actually, I'm a salute to you.

Speaker A:

Yes, sir.

Speaker B:

Because you asked the questions and carried this out and presented this in a way where people could see another side of whack.

Speaker A:

That's hard.

Speaker B:

What made you come with your line of questioning?

Speaker B:

Because most people, they want to come with the crazy shit and get the crazy, and people don't see the other side of it.

Speaker B:

So what made you come with this line of question.

Speaker A:

You know what's so crazy?

Speaker A:

I like, me personally, I like, you know, I actually study the game.

Speaker A:

So, like, I look at everybody like Charlamagne, you act, Joe Budden, all the.

Speaker A:

Alright.

Speaker A:

And I say, man, they're great at what they do when we get these people on our platforms.

Speaker A:

And actually Charleston actually was one of the people that came on the platform and kicked us some game.

Speaker A:

He was like, man, when y'all have these people on your platform, man, like.

Speaker B:

We'Re giving y'all our story.

Speaker A:

You gotta be careful with the way that you tell our story.

Speaker A:

So when I try to do the interviews, man, I really be wanting to pick y'all brain because I know y'all done seen, y'all done been places that we haven't, right?

Speaker A:

And some of the game that you just gave right now is going to inspire people.

Speaker A:

I promise you that.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

That's what it's there for, man.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so I, I give people game, I give people resources.

Speaker B:

You know, I felt like, you know, find one, teach one.

Speaker B:

So, you know, I'm, I'm obligated, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Even if it's a guy that called himself my enemy, if I can give him some games, some inside direction to help him feed his family, then, you know, I'm cool with that too.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

You won the ones, though.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I'm not tripping.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Because a lot of these people call themselves my enemy, I don't even know them.

Speaker B:

They don't know me.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

We really can't be that much of an enemy, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So end of the day, no, man, I, I, you did, you did a great interview, bro.

Speaker B:

And I was definitely different.

Speaker B:

It was, definitely gave me a chance to show another side of me and I'm looking forward to doing another one, man.

Speaker A:

That's what's up, man.

Speaker A:

I appreciate you as always.

Speaker A:

And like I said, man, I, when you came through in Dallas, there one time you showed me love.

Speaker A:

I got the picture.

Speaker A:

That's when we was up and coming and doing our thing, bro.

Speaker A:

And I seen it back then.

Speaker A:

You always show love, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, that's, that's in your spirit.

Speaker A:

So I appreciate that.

Speaker B:

For real.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker B:

All right, cool, man.

Speaker B:

So, man, we've been in here hour and 31.

Speaker B:

I told you we gonna run through it.

Speaker B:

I wasn't gonna rush you.

Speaker B:

I gave you my word on that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, listen, make sure you send me the promo links or whatever it is so me and my people could support and promote it, bro.

Speaker B:

I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker A:

All right, brother.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Real life street stars.

Speaker A:

Know what time it is.

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